Bug 95827 (Draw-Menus) - [META] Reorganization of the menu bar for Draw
Summary: [META] Reorganization of the menu bar for Draw
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: Draw-Menus
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.1.0.0.alpha1
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
URL:
Whiteboard: target:6.1.0
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Depends on: 98076 113005 119432
Blocks: Main-Menu Draw-UX
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Reported: 2015-11-15 07:27 UTC by Roman Kuznetsov
Modified: 2020-09-29 15:58 UTC (History)
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Description Roman Kuznetsov 2015-11-15 07:27:08 UTC
For Writer, Calc and Impress has added new menu Styles, Sheet and Slide (bug 91781, 91820, 91857. For the menu bar in Draw must add item Drawing, because drawing functions in Draw only on the Drawing toolbar, and not anywhere else.
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-11-17 12:10:39 UTC
Yes the menu bar needs to be reorganized just like in Writer, Calc and Impress, but i have done the research on it, but at a glance, i would assume the 'Modify' menu should likely be renamed to 'Shape' or something like that.
Comment 2 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-11-17 12:15:13 UTC
correction - but i havent done the research on it
Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2015-11-17 12:55:10 UTC
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #1)
> Yes the menu bar needs to be reorganized just like in Writer, Calc and
> Impress, but i have done the research on it, but at a glance, i would assume
> the 'Modify' menu should likely be renamed to 'Shape' or something like that.

Don't think we'd be able to force it all into the Modify menu which already has a Shapes sub-menu--devoted to interaction of existing shapes. And of course the modify menu has many other menu actions to modify existing Draw objects.  

Seems like what is missing from menu (and underexposed in the now vertical Drawing toolbar) are the drawing object creation and selection tools. As well the tools for reaching the 3D object dialogs. 

So, perhaps in addition to the Modify menu, there should be a Create menu?

Also missing menus to manipulate layers (although that remains limited and probably needs UNO command development)--things like movement of Draw objects between layers, grouping onto new layer, goto layer for selected object, ordering of layers (that would be nice!). Maybe flattening action, to bring all objects back to the default layout layer.
Comment 4 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-11-18 15:17:16 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> Don't think we'd be able to force it all into the Modify menu which already
> has a Shapes sub-menu--devoted to interaction of existing shapes. And of
> course the modify menu has many other menu actions to modify existing Draw
> objects.  

I would never suggest everything would need to be forced into the Modify menu, as Insert and Format have lots of stuff missing from it. The Shapes sub-menu in Modify has related functions to it outside of the sub-menu (i.e. Combine and Split), so renaming it to Shape would make sense, as it emphasizes the main feature of the module, just like Writer has Table, Calc has Sheet, and Impress has Slide. It could be renamed to Object, but that it less understandable for most users.

> Seems like what is missing from menu (and underexposed in the now vertical
> Drawing toolbar) are the drawing object creation and selection tools.

Can you clarify which tools you mean here.

> As well the tools for reaching the 3D object dialogs.

I'm assuming you mean the Format > Convert submenu found in Impress.
 
> So, perhaps in addition to the Modify menu, there should be a Create menu?

What would the Create menu have in it? I was thinking that a Page menu might be another menu worth having to have page management items found in the Insert menu as well as page navigation items (e.g. go to next page, go to previous page).

> Also missing menus to manipulate layers (although that remains limited and
> probably needs UNO command development)--things like movement of Draw
> objects between layers, grouping onto new layer, goto layer for selected
> object, ordering of layers (that would be nice!). Maybe flattening action,
> to bring all objects back to the default layout layer.

Likely useful to have Layer management in the Page menu.
Comment 5 Roman Kuznetsov 2016-07-19 08:39:52 UTC
menu item "Format>Page properties" need change name to "Format>Page" for uniformity with other components
Comment 6 Thomas Lendo 2017-11-15 09:44:48 UTC
I suggest to unify naming and position of menu items that are identical to other LibO components so that at least the appearance of the menus is similar. Draw-specific menu items can remain untouched. This wouldn't need deeper investigation and the new major version 6 would be a good start point for menu restructing.
Comment 7 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-12-20 23:18:08 UTC
So i've done the basic reorganization, but more tweaks will be needed in the future using the usage metrics data to better organize the shapes menu.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/46867
Comment 8 Commit Notification 2017-12-23 10:59:15 UTC
Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7e53bd35e8f8669fdeb095f8ec1a4848ffc5f507

tdf#95827 Reorganize draw's menu bar

It will be available in 6.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 9 Thomas Lendo 2020-09-29 15:58:02 UTC
Closing as FIXED as assigned to Yousuf Philips who isn't active anymore.

Open bugs will be moved to Main-Menu meta bug.