1. Create a new empty text box 2. Try to drag it around (before entering text in it) 3. The text box vanishes
Confirmed w below → NEW Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 7ccdb94e2c5774f924bf89b34387c7d41e2e4c30 CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Mac OS X 10.11.4; UI Render: default; TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-03-03_02:42:27 Locale: de-DE (de.UTF-8)
This is not (necessarily) a bug. It was a design decision to remove empty text objects because otherwise you might fill you document unintentionally with unused, empty and mostly invisible objects without noticing.
Kind of agree that this is not a bug. Doing cleanup of not completing creation of the text box object until some text is actually entered, or deletion when emptied (as with a cut-paste) makes sense. Not being able to reposition during creation is a bit annoying, but compared to littering the canvas with empty text boxes (invisible and no means to select) it seems a reasonable design. Those orphaned objects are a real nuisance in some other programs that do have selection ability--Illustrator or Photoshop for example.
Have found work-around (or a bug) related to this one. 1. Create a new empty text box (and let it 'activated') 2. Press CTRL+Z 3. Click at the position of the text box (it still there) Personally I would prefer that i'm able to drag an empty textbox. It's counter intuitive at this point. But if the are fully invisible it useless of course.
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(In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > Have found work-around (or a bug) related to this one. > 1. Create a new empty text box (and let it 'activated') > 2. Press CTRL+Z > 3. Click at the position of the text box (it still there) > > Personally I would prefer that i'm able to drag an empty textbox. It's > counter intuitive at this point. But if the are fully invisible it useless > of course. Still works in 6.3.4.2. They appear in Navigator (Drawing Objects), where you can double-click to get them back (also to drag and insert text). FWIW - as user, was often frustrated when trying to drag empty textboxes (i.e. sympathy for OP). Learned to put single character as workaround. Proposal for alternative behavior: If ((new empty text box) && drag)) then keep (i.e., added to Navigator, like Ctrl-Z) else Drop (current behavior) (Assumption is: user dragging an empty textbox is going to insert immediately afterwards, minimizing "orphan" problem from comment #2.) Should this bug have "major" importance?
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Confirmed on Windows 11 and Local Master (26.2). Tested against the installed version 7.6.2.1 and verified the logic remains unchanged in the current master branch. Local Environment Info: LIBO_VERSION_MAJOR: 26 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 26200 (WSL2/Ubuntu) Next Steps: I am reverse-engineering the SdrTextObj interaction to prevent the "Delete if Empty" logic from firing during a drag attempt.
Still working this to determine where the box is being ghosted.
Created attachment 205998 [details] tests Evidence of the box persisting.
Root Cause Analysis: The bug is a result of a Use-Before-Preserve / Premature Object Destruction race condition. During a mouse-drag event on an empty text box, the SdrEndTextEdit function triggers a cleanup/destruction path because it determines the object is empty. However, the subsequent BegDragObj subsystem still requires a valid pointer to that same SdrObject to process the drag. Because the destruction is sequenced before the drag operation is fully initialized in the event handler, the system attempts to operate on a null/deallocated pointer. Proposed Fix: I have implemented a guard in the deletion path of SdrEndTextEdit to ensure that SdrTextObj instances remain valid if a drag operation is pending or initiated within the same event dispatch. This maintains the existing design goal (preventing orphan objects) while allowing the UI to respond to user intent during creation.
Fix submitted: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/201201
Chris committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/d37154decd50e8116de8f596fc22fe98f01a3045 tdf#98856: sd: preserve empty text frame when dragging it It will be available in 26.8.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Thanks Chris!
Chris committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "libreoffice-26-2": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/57663bb21d2215373815b3e1903cb50c732f6d09 tdf#98856: sd: preserve empty text frame when dragging it It will be available in 26.2.3. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.