Bug 112064 - FORMATTING Multiple footnotes per line in the footer, rather than the default one footnote per line.
Summary: FORMATTING Multiple footnotes per line in the footer, rather than the default...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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: 76811 124334 124335 (view as bug list)
Depends on: 124334
Blocks: Footnote-Endnote ODF-spec
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Reported: 2017-08-28 01:07 UTC by Saqer
Modified: 2020-06-18 10:04 UTC (History)
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Many footnotes per line (68.30 KB, image/png)
2017-08-28 01:10 UTC, Saqer
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5 footnotes, on two lines. (50.52 KB, image/png)
2017-08-28 16:47 UTC, Saqer
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Published example of footnotes sharing the same line. (19.64 KB, image/png)
2020-06-17 12:53 UTC, R. Green
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Description Saqer 2017-08-28 01:07:12 UTC
Description:
LO formats footnotes to be separated in a way that there's one footnote per line.

This leaves plenty of whitespace on a page when the footnotes are extremely brief but numerous. I'd like to separate footnotes by tabs (so that we can have 2, 3, or 4 footnotes per line).

I haven't found other workarounds to do this.

Steps to Reproduce:
1 Insert footnotes in any text.
2 Footnotes appear in the footer.
3 No option to change the formatting of the footnotes to have multiple on one line.

Actual Results:  
Each footnote by default appears separate on its own line.

Expected Results:
Each footnote can be adjusted to be included with other footnotes on the same line.


Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: 

Additional Info:
I am aware that this is possible using LaTeX (https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/28736/footnotes-on-the-same-line).


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.105 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.92.917.43
Comment 1 Saqer 2017-08-28 01:10:29 UTC
Created attachment 135821 [details]
Many footnotes per line

This actually is a paragraph of footnotes in Arabic, notice how the footnote text of footnote ٢٢ continues in the second line.
Comment 2 Dieter 2017-08-28 06:19:23 UTC
I confirm this an enhancement. I think it is for example useful, if you only have 2 or 3 very short footnotes.
Comment 3 Saqer 2017-08-28 16:47:55 UTC
Created attachment 135829 [details]
5 footnotes, on two lines.

Notice 5 footnotes (٦٣، ٦٤، ٦٥، ٦٦) all on one line, and one footnote ٦٧ on the next line.
Comment 4 Regina Henschel 2017-08-28 22:55:54 UTC
Such structure can not be represented in current ODF 1.2. An implementation would need an temporarily loext namespace and a proposal for ODF 1.3 to OASIS.
Comment 5 Justin L 2018-03-31 09:00:27 UTC
*** Bug 76811 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Dieter 2019-03-27 08:22:18 UTC
*** Bug 124335 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Dieter 2019-03-27 08:22:58 UTC
*** Bug 124334 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Dieter 2019-03-27 08:23:50 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4)
> Such structure can not be represented in current ODF 1.2. An implementation
> would need an temporarily loext namespace and a proposal for ODF 1.3 to
> OASIS.

Regina, will this feature be possible with ODF 1.3?
Comment 9 Regina Henschel 2019-03-27 14:03:03 UTC
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #8)
> Regina, will this feature be possible with ODF 1.3?

Not for ODF 1.3. That has feature freeze since July 2018. And to get it into ODF 1.4 you need a proposal for OASIS and an implementation in LO.
Comment 10 Dieter 2019-03-27 14:21:38 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #9)
> (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #8)
> > Regina, will this feature be possible with ODF 1.3?
> 
> Not for ODF 1.3. That has feature freeze since July 2018. And to get it into
> ODF 1.4 you need a proposal for OASIS and an implementation in LO.

So who is responsible for this or who decides to go for it?
Comment 11 Regina Henschel 2019-03-27 14:46:59 UTC
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #10)
> So who is responsible for this or who decides to go for it?

You only need a developer to implement it. You can ask the UX team in advance whether they have any serious concerns about implementing such a feature.
Comment 12 Dieter 2019-03-27 15:28:17 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #11)
> (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #10)
> > So who is responsible for this or who decides to go for it?
> 
> You only need a developer to implement it. You can ask the UX team in
> advance whether they have any serious concerns about implementing such a
> feature.

Design-Team, what do think? Besides that I wonder, if there is any coordination for OASIS proposals by the QA-Team or the ESC.

cc: Design-Team
cc: Xisco Fauli
Comment 13 Heiko Tietze 2019-03-28 11:42:44 UTC
Never seen footnotes being formatted like this. But searching the web I'm obviously wrong, there are many such requests. Tex makes it very easy and Microsoft talks about a workaround of a pilcrow with hidden font effect. Neither we can select the wrapping character on footnotes nor does making it hidden has an effect on the layout when it's done in the document.

I would appreciate a solution that doesn't require a new UI. For example, Paragraph Style > Text Flow > Breaks > [x] Insert (on, with a new option for Line wrap). But anyway, the request makes sense for a good number of users.


/off-topic
(We should also implement this: https://www.xkcd.com/1208/)
Comment 14 Xisco Faulí 2019-11-29 13:28:23 UTC
Changing priority back to 'medium' since the number of duplicates is lower than 5
Comment 15 R. Green 2020-06-17 12:53:45 UTC
Created attachment 162116 [details]
Published example of footnotes sharing the same line.

Allowing footnotes to share a single line is certainly a feature of many published works. See the attached example (Ernle, "English Farming Past and Present," Longman, Green and Co. 1936, 5th ed.).
Comment 16 Heiko Tietze 2020-06-18 10:04:10 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #11)
> You only need a developer to implement it. You can ask the UX team in
> advance whether they have any serious concerns about implementing such a
> feature.

No serious objection, MSO can also apply columns.

I wonder how users understand columns in general - as attribute of the page style it wont be applicable to footnotes and frames are also not helpful. So we either name this property differently like "queues". Or have a (virtual) frame behind the footnotes that allows this configuration.

The examples look like a preference of left to right before top to bottom (given we have 3 columns, the number 1-3 are in row 1, 4 comes at col1,row2). That's different to the current behavior with top to bottom first.