Hi Designers / UX guys On working with the new help for 6.1 as shown in e.g https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/shared/main0108.html I see the CONTENTS left sidebar with main entries as: Macro and programming Spreadsheets Charts and Diagrams Installation Common Help Topics Database Functionality Presentation and drawings Formulas Text Documents HTML documents I'd like to propose we change the following terminology Macro and programming -> BASIC programming Spreadsheets -> CALC Charts and Diagrams -> CHART Installation -> %PRODUCTNAME Installation Common Help Topics -> COMMON help Topics Database Functionality -> BASE Presentation and drawings -> IMPRESS and DRAW Formulas -> MATH Text Documents -> WRITER HTML documents -> WRITER WEB My biased view is that the module names are more significant visually at click time than the current terms employed. I'd like advises, change is trivial.
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I've no heartburn in changing the heading labels, so long as the articles are fully indexed for search. Current headings are exactly the terms I would use to locate the help articles--if that remains after changes, sure. Otherwise, need to rethink...
Somehow I find it elegant (.. ?) that more general terms than the product names are used. Matter of educating the user.. maybe that causes my idea.
We discussed the topic in the design meeting. While the idea to promote module names is good we think the clear names are more important. Good compromise might be to add modules in brackets. Macro and programming -> Macros and scripting Spreadsheets -> Spreadsheets (CALC) Charts and Diagrams -> Charts and Diagrams Installation -> %PRODUCTNAME Installation Common Help Topics -> Common Help Topics Database Functionality -> Database Functionality (BASE) Presentation and drawings -> Presentation and drawings (IMPRESS/DRAW) Formulas -> Formulas (MATH) Text Documents -> Text Documents (WRITER) HTML documents -> HTML documents (WRITER WEB) We should involve l10n for the actual labels, for example if the modules are written uppercase etc. To think ahead we should do the same for the menu at File > New + Text documents (WRITER) ... + Database (BASE)
I second Cor. Also, I see no value in adding an all-caps SHOUTOUT everywhere.
I second Olivier's request to add the name of the modules, but no need to uppercase them, they are not uppercased in other places in the UI. Sophie
Olivier Hallot committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/commit/?id=c58bf8545eb2f76dee66921dad945f17b5274f6f tdf#118330 Terminology change of CONTENTS sidebar
Design team recommended to add the module name in brackets [1], which has been done by Olivier now. Thank you! [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2018-07-04.
Again: has nobody thought that this change is redundant with the module picker at the top of every help page?