Created attachment 159886 [details] Example doc file from Word 2003 We have the Character – Font Effects – Blinking property on the Writer UI, but it’s a dated feature, one that could be retired. Word had in 2003 6 different types of character effects, while LO has a single one. 2010 no longer offers them on the UI, but in existing documents they do work. In 2013 and newer they are ignored in existing documents too. To be more consistent with newer Word versions and online trends (such as HTML5 deprecating the blink tag: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/blink ) I think we could do two things: - Stop applying the blinking effect in the editor for existing files - Remove the Character – Font Effects – Blinking checkbox The export/import filter code and data model could be left alone, for interoperability with older software, such as Word < 2013 and LO < 7. Steps to reproduce: 1. Open attached documents Actual results: Text has character level effects in Word < 2013 and in LO. Expected results: We should not show these blinking effects, only the text. LibreOffice details: Version: 7.0.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)Build ID: bf536201ae83e7ca6a565eb8ff0dbc0e4e887d64CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win; Locale: hu-HU (hu_HU); UI-Language: en-USCalc: CL
Created attachment 159887 [details] Example docx file from Word 2003
Created attachment 159888 [details] The example file in Word 2010
Created attachment 159889 [details] The example file in Word 2013 and LO 6.5 master
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Proposed patch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/92875
Why do you want to hide the feature? It is not even deprecated in ODF and it belongs to our published API.
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #6) > Why do you want to hide the feature? It is not even deprecated in ODF and it > belongs to our published API. Some time ago we got a user ticket and they complained about a bit of highlighted text in a docx that also flashed in Writer, but not in Word. Turns out it was some old template, which indeed had flashing property set. They were unaware of that, because Word already ignores this property - turns out since 2013. This, and its fate in HTML shows how relevant is this property in these days from user perspective. That's why I'd like to hide it.
Discussed this idea in the ESC and hiding the UI is a reasonable step. The feature was probably introduced back in the 1990th when Starwriter was used as HTML editor.
Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/1eb6210d678bbb0c875f0f72bd876a9e7795dfbe tdf#132373 Remove blinking character property from the UI/editor It will be available in 7.0.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Hiding the feature disallows users to turn it off in existing documents?
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #10) > Hiding the feature disallows users to turn it off in existing documents? From the dialog yes, but the Remove Direct Formatting (Ctrl-M) button does the trick.
(In reply to NISZ LibreOffice Team from comment #11) > (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #10) > > Hiding the feature disallows users to turn it off in existing documents? > > From the dialog yes, but the Remove Direct Formatting (Ctrl-M) button does > the trick. Even for glowing property defined at style level? ... and will that be documented then for users?
s/glowing/blinking/ (was a thinko, sorry)
Also doesn't "want to remove this blinking? Just drop every bit of formatting from here, and then try to figure how and what to restore" looks a bit ... strange?
Please document this change in the 7.0 release notes thoroughly.
Verified in Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 44b914b1e2616ca8f70e896e653a46ca93610234 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17134; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: hu-HU (hu_HU); UI: hu-HU Calc: threaded