Bug 134440 - Page break editing: "Text Flow > Breaks" needs clearer wording
Summary: Page break editing: "Text Flow > Breaks" needs clearer wording
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Writer-Page-Break
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Reported: 2020-07-01 16:33 UTC by R. Green
Modified: 2020-12-18 17:43 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Specimen Writer file with page breaks (19.37 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2020-07-01 16:33 UTC, R. Green
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Description R. Green 2020-07-01 16:33:44 UTC
Created attachment 162565 [details]
Specimen Writer file with page breaks

Version: 6.4.4.2 (x64)
Build ID: 3d775be2011f3886db32dfd395a6a6d1ca2630ff
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
Locale: en-GB (en_GB); UI-Language: en-GB
Calc: threaded

Open the attached file, for example. Bring up and click on "Edit page break" on the first page break (blue dotted line). Navigate to the "Text Flow" tab.

IMV, there is an ambiguity in the wording of the "Breaks" section. If "Position" is set to "Before", the wording of "With page style" gives the impression that the page style applies to the page BEFORE the page break. On the contrary, the page style actually refers to the page AFTER the break.

The UI wording could be adjusted from, say, "With page style" to "Page style after", or such like.
Comment 1 BogdanB 2020-07-01 16:55:55 UTC
Or another solution: "Cotinue with page style"
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2020-07-04 20:48:54 UTC
In spite of bug 134439, can we close this one too?
Comment 3 R. Green 2020-07-07 10:15:03 UTC
AFAICS, the suggestion is relevant regardless of any bug. It's about making the dialog clearer so that the user is in no doubt what style is applied AFTER the page break.
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2020-07-09 07:11:03 UTC
We can use "Continue with page style" or "Next/Following page style" but personally I don't think it leads to a better understanding. => WF

To not make decisions based on personal liking I keep the ticket open.
Comment 5 Justin L 2020-12-18 17:43:46 UTC
If the position is "after", then page style change is not possible - it is greyed out. So the break occurs before the current paragraph, and the page style changes at the point where the page break happens. So that suggests that before/after indicates nothing about the where the page style will be applied.

Plus, it pretty easy to test your hypothesis. When you see you are wrong, you adjust your thinking. AFAIK, there is no word processor that would apply a page style change before the current cursor.

Page break with page style xxxx seems perfectly natural and logical to me. I agree with Heiko's WONTFIX.