Description: With the browse mode you get completely different possibilities in word processors like Microsoft Office. It would be good if LibreOffice Writer would also support the browse mode. The navigator in LibreOffice is not sufficient. Further information can be found here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8148 Actual Results: There is no browse mode in LibreOffice Expected Results: Lots of new possibilities thanks to a browse mode Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: -
We have read the github link and can confirm that the navigator in LibreOffice is not sufficient. For example, in Word in browse mode it is possible to navigate from spelling mistake to spelling mistake, which is not allowed by the LibreOffice navigator. In order to work with text documents faster and more efficiently, the implementation of the browse mode would be very useful.
If NVDA 'Browse mode' is dependent on any UIA, pretty clearly unsupportable in LibreOffice where we support only accessible event triggers--as mapped back to IA2. If we're missing accessible events, fine--that is on us. But, we will not implement native MS Windows code needed for UIA. Similar to 'Say-all' fix likely has to be within the the IA2 module of NVDA. But I won't close this NOT OUR BUG just yet. Need technical exchange from NVDA devs as to what's potentially required within IA2 event framework.
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2) > If NVDA 'Browse mode' is dependent on any UIA, pretty clearly unsupportable > in LibreOffice where we support only accessible event triggers--as mapped > back to IA2. > > If we're missing accessible events, fine--that is on us. > > But, we will not implement native MS Windows code needed for UIA. > > Similar to 'Say-all' fix likely has to be within the the IA2 module of NVDA. > > But I won't close this NOT OUR BUG just yet. Need technical exchange from > NVDA devs as to what's potentially required within IA2 event framework. Hello Stuart, has anyone from NVDA contacted you yet?
(In reply to juergenkohler23 from comment #3) > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2) > > If NVDA 'Browse mode' is dependent on any UIA, pretty clearly unsupportable > > in LibreOffice where we support only accessible event triggers--as mapped > > back to IA2. > > > > If we're missing accessible events, fine--that is on us. > > > > But, we will not implement native MS Windows code needed for UIA. > > > > Similar to 'Say-all' fix likely has to be within the the IA2 module of NVDA. > > > > But I won't close this NOT OUR BUG just yet. Need technical exchange from > > NVDA devs as to what's potentially required within IA2 event framework. > > Hello Stuart, > > has anyone from NVDA contacted you yet? Neither Quentin, Jaime, nor Mick--nor any of the developer community. It would/will be reflected here in the BZ.
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I have tried again to contact the NVDA developers; without their help the necessary information will probably not be available...
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed
(In reply to juergenkohler23 from comment #6) > I have tried again to contact the NVDA developers; without their help the > necessary information will probably not be available... Jürgen, any news? => NEEDINFO
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4) > > > If NVDA 'Browse mode' is dependent on any UIA, pretty clearly unsupportable > > > in LibreOffice where we support only accessible event triggers--as mapped > > > back to IA2. I can answer this (all speaking generally at least, since I haven't looked at the code on either side here) - while NVDA now uses UIA by default in recent builds of Word, because the experience there has improved to where it is better and more responsive than iA2 *in that situation* in general for the majority of users, we have otherwise (and still offer) iA2 support. So that should be possible in LO as well. I know one of our developers, Reef, commented previously that we weren't in a position to take on the whole project - https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8148#issuecomment-744228528 - At the time he suggested looking at how NVDA handles browse mode using iA2 in browsers. I don't think we're currently in a better position to own the endeavour, but I'm happy to keep the dialog open.