Created attachment 44815 [details]
Accessible tree shows only 24 of the 26 paragraphs in the document.
Some objects at the end of a writer document are not included in the AT-SPI
accessible tree. If a document has n objects, the accessible tree shows only
(n-k) objects. When an assistive tool navigating the document reaches (n-k)th
object, it wrongly concludes that the last object is reached and wraps to the
Steps to reproduce:
1. Create a writer document containing 22 paragraphs, each paragraph consisting
of only one or two words and terminated by a new line. Save and close the
2. Reopen the document. Move the cursor to the first line.
3. Start Accerciser accessibility explorer.
4. Go to the accessible tree view at top left. As shown in attached
screen-shot, select the accessible object corresponding to the Document view,
with role document frame. Make a note of the number of paragraphs shown in
'Children' column. Close Accerciser.
5. Repeat steps 1-4 with more paragraphs (23, 24, 25, 26, ...) till number of
paragraphs in accessible tree (Step 4) are less than the number of paragraphs
in the document (Step 1).
When I carried out the above steps, I got the following results:
Paragraphs in document Paragraphs in accessible tree
Contents of my writer document were as below -
The real problem is that the accessible tree contains only those objects which are visible on the screen at any instant, and ignores those which are above or below. This prevents Assistive Technology tools from accessing the full document. So it needs to be fixed on a priority basis.
This bug is a major hurdle in the way of assistive tools like Orca screen reader trying to access the whole document. How much easy or difficult is it to fix? May we get a tentative target date for fixing it?
See also: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652548
FLOWS_FROM and FLOWS_TO relationships, however, link together all paragraphs and table cells in the document, visible or not.
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Today I rechecked my observation with Libre Office dev 3.5.0 beta2 and found
that the bug persists. I suggest that the bug be moved back to NEW status.
Is this Gnome 2? Remains this problem in Gnome 3?
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The bug is real. I noticed it in version 3.3.0 and submitted it with a
supporting screenshot. I reconfirmed that the bug exists with version 3.5.0
beta2. It falls in the same category as bugs 35105, 35107, 35110, 35111, 35129
which you have reopened and changed to NEW.
Behavior remains, should have been returned to NEW status.
The corresponding Apache OpenOffice bug is also still open: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117542
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This is still reproducible in master.
Build ID: 6c41727484a04ab89005ffb052937dae5d7dc223
Another way to reproduce it: create an empty document, add one paragraph and add a footnote. When you scroll to the bottom of the page, only the footnote will be exposed to the AT; when you scroll to the top, the paragraph is exposed to the AT and the footnote disappears.
(In reply to Jacobo Aragunde Pérez from comment #16)
> This is still reproducible in master.
> Version: 184.108.40.206.alpha0+
> Build ID: 6c41727484a04ab89005ffb052937dae5d7dc223
> Another way to reproduce it: create an empty document, add one paragraph and
> add a footnote. When you scroll to the bottom of the page, only the footnote
> will be exposed to the AT; when you scroll to the top, the paragraph is
> exposed to the AT and the footnote disappears.
i can reproduce the bug using the steps that you mentioned.
when i access content, i lose footnotes,
and when i find footnotes (using navigator) i lose usual content!
moreover, sayAll does not work for me in any version of libreoffice which i tested and i cant access the content of my books entirely.