Bug 143051 - EDITING Adding/removing bullets&numbering is not change tracked
Summary: EDITING Adding/removing bullets&numbering is not change tracked
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords:
: 143923 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Track-Changes-Lists
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Reported: 2021-06-24 14:11 UTC by NISZ LibreOffice Team
Modified: 2024-01-08 13:17 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Example file from Writer with some numbered paragraphs (14.52 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2021-06-24 14:11 UTC, NISZ LibreOffice Team
Details
Screenshot of the original document in Writer (29.22 KB, image/png)
2021-06-24 14:12 UTC, NISZ LibreOffice Team
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Screenshot of the problem in Writer (24.20 KB, image/png)
2021-06-24 14:14 UTC, NISZ LibreOffice Team
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Description NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-06-24 14:11:34 UTC
Created attachment 173170 [details]
Example file from Writer with some numbered paragraphs

n track changes mode turning on/off bullets&numbering on a paragraph does not create recorded change tracking entries.
It would be a nice feature to have for interoperability. 
Writer already can import changes on bullets&numbering from docx and re-export those to docx, just the recording support at editing time is missing.

Steps to reproduce:
    1. Open attached document
    2. Select the “Second paragraph” and turn off its numbering
    3. Select the “Sixth paragraph” and turn on its numbering
    4. Edit – Track Changes – Manage

Actual results:
There are no tracked changes recorded.

Expected results:
Two changes of Formats type should be recorded for the addition and deletion of numbering.

LibreOffice details:
Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 6805efdecb240fad8c82a5c1756a2a0e92f12b7d
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18363; UI render: default; VCL: win
Locale: hu-HU (hu_HU); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-06-24 14:12:26 UTC
Created attachment 173171 [details]
Screenshot of the original document in Writer
Comment 2 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-06-24 14:14:08 UTC
Created attachment 173172 [details]
Screenshot of the problem in Writer
Comment 3 Dieter 2021-07-13 20:21:02 UTC
I confirm current behaviour with

Version: 7.1.5.1 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 2ca94649fd6dbdcab938c55c28b6a950a9634a34
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

According to https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/shared/01/02230100.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN turning on/off bulleted & numbered list is not part of change record

=> Design-Team for input and decision
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2021-07-14 06:53:49 UTC
Reported by yourself in bug 115523.

(Having several META tickets for missing TC features makes no sense to me.)
Comment 5 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-08-31 08:51:24 UTC
(In reply to Dieter from comment #3)
> According to
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/shared/01/02230100.
> html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN turning on/off bulleted & numbered list is not
> part of change record

We should add insert/delete images to that page, since bug #59463 is fixed :).
But yeah this is an enhancement request, since the Normal Office can do this, so we should be too.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Reported by yourself in bug 115523.

No, this one is about recording turning on/off on an existing paragraph, while that other is about previewing the result of a paragraph deletion in numbering (and 115524 is about previewing the result of a paragraph insertion into a list).

The general problem is that barely any function in the bullets&numbering toolbar generates a change tracking entry - unlike the Normal Office does. I have some canned bugs that wait only for a bit of time to upload them, and those cover pretty much all those toolbar commands.

> 
> (Having several META tickets for missing TC features makes no sense to me.)

My work hypothesis is that cutting up meta bugs into small (< 10-20 bug) mini-metas is more useful to oversee where we are regarding properly implementing a feature (by reducing the scope of features), compared to mega-size meta bugs like bug 75057 or bug 104444 or even bug 83946.

This complements cutting up generic "nothing works, everything is bad" type complaints like bug 33082 into small, actionable edit/import/export bugs about well defined menu commands/object attributes, by wrangling together these feature-based bugs under the way broader meta topics.

I may be wrong though.
Comment 6 Dieter 2021-08-31 09:10:14 UTC
(In reply to NISZ LibreOffice Team from comment #5)
> We should add insert/delete images to that page, since bug #59463 is fixed
> :).

Done, see bug 144206.
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2021-09-01 09:25:06 UTC
(In reply to Dieter from comment #3)
> => Design-Team for input and decision

Guess this enhancement is not controversial.
Comment 8 Telesto 2021-09-05 11:53:45 UTC
*** Bug 143923 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***