In version 22.214.171.124 in Writer…
There is no Help page for Tools>Options…>Language settings>English Sentence Checking.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Tools>Options…>Language settings>English Sentence Checking
2. Press Help button
3. Note that there is no help page displayed
Pressing the Help button displays the following error message:
Could not find Help page (404). That is an error. Possible causes are:
The page does not exist and must be created.
The page exists, but the Help ID is wrong or missing.
Use the Module, Contents, Index and Search selectors to find the right page.
The following data could be helpful in locating the error:
Help ID: cui/ui/optionsdialog/dialog-action_area1
Help page information pertaining to the English Sentence Checking.
User Profile Reset: Yes
The error message portion that states "Use the Module, Contents, Index and Search selectors to find the right page." is unclear because there is no module, contents, index, or search tabs in that dialog or in the Tools drop-down menu.
Version: 126.96.36.199 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 614be4f5c67816389257027dc5e56c801a547089
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: default; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Confirm for current master 7.3
Olivier, is this one for Documentation team?
I’ve never seen a proofing/dictionary component providing help files. I think the most feasible thing to do here is removing the Help button from the Settings dialog when this tab page is open.
I am fairly certain this particular Help page used to work. The other Help pages that I have checked still do work, but this one does not. I have used the past five or six versions of LO, but I updated to version 188.8.131.52 recently. In all the previous versions, I only ever came across one other missing Help page, but the page that popped up in its place clearly indicated that there was no Help available for that particular page--unlike the one I mentioned in this bug report where it instead came up with an error message. Some Help pages do not come up with the helpful dialog that explains what the cursor is hovering over though, but I suspect over time that will be addressed.
Informations about that option are also missing at
Select any option in the Tools>Options…>Language settings>English Sentence Checking, then press F1.
Result: Could not find Help page (404).
Help ID: cui/ui/optionsdialog/box
This page is target from options button of "English dictionaries for LibreOffice" extension.
So Marco, what is your opinion to missing help page?
cc: Marco A. Pinto
Right now, I am stressed and can't think properly… sorry.
Marco, any news on this?
I don't understand this ticket.
I only make the English Dictionary extension, basically, one selects a variant of English for a document and the dictionary checks for typos.
And I only improve the GB Dictionary, the ZA was made by a guy from South Africa who vanished from the map, so I made a list of uppercase words from it and asked if someone from South Africa could tell me if they are proper names so that I could add them to GB and people from there use GB (as they already do).
In ZA, I have only done some fixes requested by users since its maintainers are gone.
The other English variants are done by Kevin Atkinson.
So, regarding LibreOffice, this is what I do:
- English Dictionaries;
This is all I can help with (and I still don't know how can this help with this ticket).
(In reply to Marco A.G.Pinto from comment #9)
> Ahhhh… sorry…
> I don't understand this ticket.
Sorry, I thought you might could help.
Informations about the option "English Sentence Checking" is missing in Language settings overview: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-GB/text/shared/optionen/01150000.html?&DbPAR=SHARED&System=WIN
And there is no help page about "English Sentence Checking". Therefor error message appears, if you press help button in "English Sentence Checking" dialog.
Getting Started Guide 7.3 (pp. 62-63) offers a detailed description of the options for English Sentence Checking. If it is accurate, then it might be the basis for a help page.
If it is not doable to have a help page for each extra tab that dictionaries add to the Options dialog, we have in my opinion two options:
- Remove the Help button for those, as Adolfo suggested in comment 2; or
- Keep the Help button, but:
- make it go to the general Languages help page
- add a section about "Extra tabs depending on configuration" to let users know there might be others.
However, this particular tab is probably the most prominent one of its kind, and there is enough to document that it is detailed in the Getting Started guide, as Seth mentioned in comment 11, as well as in the Writer guide.
In my opinion, it should have its own Help page.
Olivier and UX team, what do you think?
(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #12)
> Olivier and UX team, what do you think?
The documentation team can handle this well. I have no clue how to get the option; might be added to the documentation.
This English Sentence Checking feature is actually a set of python regex run by LightProof grammar checker, and are part of the bundled extensions released with LibreOffice.
The English set of rules is configurable in the dialog.
However, other languages such as pt-BR has another set of rules and the settings dialog is different, with some ad-hoc linguistic rules and different grammar checking. The Sentence checking is in the dictionaries/<lang> submodule.
Since the grammar checking varies per language, I find strange to create a Help page translatable with Portuguese rules on a English UI.
But the dialog created by the extension could have a Help button to open a wiki page with the rules explained in the user or document language.