Bug 160185 - Would like a width control for Web view in Writer (like in Google Docs' Pageless view)
Summary: Would like a width control for Web view in Writer (like in Google Docs' Pagel...
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 37817
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer Web (show other bugs)
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Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Writer-Web-Layout
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Reported: 2024-03-13 19:29 UTC by K. David Ladage
Modified: 2024-04-10 11:09 UTC (History)
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Description K. David Ladage 2024-03-13 19:29:58 UTC
Description:
Please see Bug 160111.

I am looking for something akin to the 'pageless' view in Google Docs. The closest options currently are:

- Web View -- but this is uncomfortably wide when used. If I could tell it to have X width, centered on the screen, then it would be quite useful.

- Hide White Space -- but this creates some odd behavior at the actual page break areas (and includes grey lines indicating a new page is there). If all that were removed, this would be quite close as well.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open a Writer document in Web view; it spans the entire window.
2. Open a Writer document and hide white space; borders of the page (especially at the page break are evident; behavior at the page break is distracting and not very useful).

Actual Results:
See "Steps to Reproduce" above.

Expected Results:
See "Steps to Reproduce" above.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Google Docs has a "pageless" view where I am not having to deal with page-breaks, and the width of the viewport is something I can configure. This is the sort of behavior I would like to be able to utilize in Libre Office.
Comment 1 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-03-14 05:27:15 UTC
As mentioned in bug 160111:

Google Docs allows changing the text width easily from View > Text Width, with four options available: Narrow, Medium, Wide, Full.

I do agree that it would help with readability. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_length

Currently, the workarounds I can think of:
- user might intuitively play with the horizontal ruler's indent controls, which only affects the current paragraph and has surprising consequences when changing back to Normal view.
- Change the width of the actual window, which is not ideal as it will hide parts of the UI.

But this also ties into what is discussed in bug 37817 and bug 53895, as well as the Normal View topic in bug 37967 and 67698.

Design/UX team, what do you think?
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2024-03-14 08:59:22 UTC
The pandora's box for a distraction-free view is bug 37817. With a similar request in bug 37967 about an "Option like MS WORD's normal view". The web-view (along with html editing features) is a legacy that we should get rid of. 

"Pageless" is an oxymoron for text processors, in my opinion. Keep in mind that a text may have content in header/footer. Some tickets discuss the whitespace feature. Bug 94164 asking for less spacing between pages (resolved WFM) and bug 130023 requesting a reasonable space between pages.

Assuming that "I am looking for something akin to the 'pageless' view in Google Docs" intends to have a distraction free view mode, I suggest to make this ticket a duplicate. Agreed, David?
Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2024-03-14 13:07:15 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
And there is the suggestion for a new MUFFIN mode in bug 128349
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2024-04-10 11:09:53 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> And there is the suggestion for a new MUFFIN mode in bug 128349

This would be a solution for bug 37817. So a dup as well.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 37817 ***