Created attachment 197721 [details] Tooltip navigator open documents list The text of the tooltip of the open documents list in the navigator shows only "document". On the help page for the navigator https://help.libreoffice.org/24.8/en-GB/text/swriter/01/02110000.html?System=WIN&DbPAR=WRITER the list is named "Open documents". So the tooltip should also show "Open documents". Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open Calc 2. Open the menu View 3. Click on Navigator 4. Hover over the open documents list See also attached picture. Version: 24.8.3.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 48a6bac9e7e268aeb4c3483fcf825c94556d9f92 CPU threads: 16; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (10.0 build 22631); UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB Calc: CL threaded
Hello, Thank you for reporting the bug. I can confirm that the bug is present in LibreOffice version 24.8.2.1 (current version) and in 25.2.0.0 (master build). I followed your steps and I was not able to insert a table in the editable section when the entire document is set to Read Only. Master Build Version: 25.2.0.0.alpha0 TinderBox: MacOSX-aarch64@tb92-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2024-11-06 05:23:09 As a note, this may be more of an enhancement then a bug but I have updated the status to "New" still. I see the difference from the help page shows "Open documents" but when hovering over the document dropdown in the navigator show's "document".
Hello, Thank you for reporting the bug. I can confirm that the bug is present in LibreOffice version 24.8.2.1 (current version) and in 25.2.0.0 (master build). Master Build Version: 25.2.0.0.alpha0 TinderBox: MacOSX-aarch64@tb92-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2024-11-06 05:23:09 As a note, this may be more of an enhancement then a bug but I have updated the status to "New" still. I see the difference from the help page shows "Open documents" but when hovering over the document dropdown in the navigator show's "document".
I can do the change, if aproved.
If aproved, I found this as the location of the string. sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/navigatorpanel.ui: <property name="tooltip-text" translatable="yes" context="navigatorpanel|documents|tooltip_text">Document</property>
But as a sugestion for a new name I propose: - Opened documents - Documents in use - View documents
For Calc it is sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui/navigatorpanel.ui, showing "Displays the names of all open documents." The label "Documents" is what I get in Writer (and your screenshot shows this module too). To save the l10n team from unnecessary work I suggest to use the same label.
Created attachment 197775 [details] Tooltip navigator open documents list Draw
Created attachment 197776 [details] Tooltip navigator open documents list Impress
Created attachment 197777 [details] Tooltip navigator open documents list Calc
The attachment 197721 [details] shows Writer. I mixed it up. For Writer (attachment 197721 [details]), Calc (attachment 197777 [details]), Impress (attachment 197776 [details]) and Draw (attachment 197775 [details]) the tooltip shows document. I suggest "Opened documents" for the text of the tooltip as it is used on the help page.
Created attachment 197779 [details] Extended tooltip navigator open documents list Writer
Created attachment 197780 [details] Extended tooltip navigator open documents list Calc
Created attachment 197781 [details] Extended tooltip navigator open documents list Draw
Created attachment 197782 [details] Extended tooltip navigator open documents list Impress
The tooltip "Displays the names of all open documents." is showing when extended tips is activated. There are different extended tips for most of the module. Calc attachment 197780 [details] Draw attachment 197781 [details] Impress attachment 197782 [details] Writer attachment 197779 [details]
The list box on the Navigator SB deck is module specific and holds just those documents as opened for the *current* module. So yes, tool-tip could be a module specific translated string, e.g in Calc -- "Open spreadsheets", in Impress -- "Open presentations", in Writer -- "Open documents". With a corresponding (translated) extended tool-tip text for each of the modules. Compare how the SB Navigator's lb differs from the main menu's 'Window' listing of open documents. The Window menu list shows open documents of all modules, and allows UI focus to any of them, but has no tooltip. But, I question if the Navigator list box should show open documents from all modules--with a generic "Document" tool-tip, or remain module specific and receive module specific tool-tips. I'd rather have the SB Navigator lb able to move UI focus to the other modules, and keep the generic tool-tip. If it remains module specific--then tool-tip should probably reflect the module.
Plenty of suggestions, the doer may decide. Easyhack with code pointer in comment 4.
Change is in gerrit https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/177321 Even if it involves changes for translators, I also made changes for Calc and Impress. Feel free to comment on gerrit.
I like the idea from V Stuart Foote. If the tooltips are module specific we should use the opportunity to make the tips which fits the module. My suggestions Calc short tip "Opened spreadsheets" extended tip "Lists currently open spreadsheets." Draw short tip "Opened drawings" extended tip "Lists currently open drawings." Impress short tip "Opened presentations" extended tip "Lists currently open presentations." Writer short tip "Opened documents" extended tip "Lists currently open documents."
(In reply to lol from comment #19) > I like the idea from V Stuart Foote. > If the tooltips are module specific we should use the opportunity to make > the tips which fits the module. > > My suggestions > > Calc > short tip "Opened spreadsheets" > extended tip "Lists currently open spreadsheets." > > Draw > short tip "Opened drawings" > extended tip "Lists currently open drawings." > > Impress > short tip "Opened presentations" > extended tip "Lists currently open presentations." > > Writer > short tip "Opened documents" > extended tip "Lists currently open documents." Ok. I will give another try later.
Heiko, I found just sc, sw, sd. The Impress is using the same? Can you give me a code pointer for the fourth one?
Draw/Impress seem to use the same panel.
> > My suggestions > > > > Calc > > short tip "Opened spreadsheets" > > extended tip "Lists currently open spreadsheets." - - I changed just this one, documents replaced to spreadsheets. > > > > Draw > > short tip "Opened drawings" > > extended tip "Lists currently open drawings." > > > > Impress > > short tip "Opened presentations" > > extended tip "Lists currently open presentations." > > If Impress and Draw have a common .ui file, I can not change that. > > Writer > > short tip "Opened documents" > > extended tip "Lists currently open documents." > > Ok. I will give another try later.
Bogdan Buzea committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/82417b47bdeffd8f1051819bda94cd33a9fa48fa tdf#163992 Improve tooltip for opened documents It will be available in 25.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Thanks BogdanB for fixing this as far as possible. I will create a new bug report to separate the strings in Draw and Impress.
Verified. Checked with Version: 25.2.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: afc441e65107ed808c399b65f4737d25541cdf77 CPU threads: 16; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (10.0 build 22631); UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: de-DE Calc: CL threaded