Suppose I'm working on a document which I intend to export. In this document, I use different fonts to convey some sort of meaning, or as a form of styling, and my fonts have different levels of lightness: I have red and blue and green, but also dark gray, and deep brown, and dark blue; all still quite usable and discernable on a white background - which is what I get if I print or export to PDF. Now, suppose I run LibreOffice in Dark Mode, and with the document background also dark. This would make my dark colors almost invisible against the background. And while with "regular" documents, I could just set the text color to automatic and be done with it, in my example - I cannot. Nor can I change the color scheme to somerthing else, since that would mess up the coloring during export, where the background is white again. You could say: "It's your problem, you chose to make it that way etc." - but it's not so simple: * Maybe this happened to me when I upgraded. * Maybe it was fine with the documents I work on, then somebody else sent me the document with the dark colors? * Maybe it's the default when I install LO. In these situations, we are in a bit of a problem. We again could just rely on the user, but I am wondering if we should not make some suggestion on switching at least the document background. Or perhaps, let the choice of document background be part of the settings saved with the document. ---------------- Note: This bug was motivated by the following rant: https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/1l2vepo/which_200_iq_developer_came_up_with_this_genius_ux/ which can be resolved by not insisting on black text color.
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0) > Note: This bug was motivated by the following rant: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/1l2vepo/ > which_200_iq_developer_came_up_with_this_genius_ux/ > > which can be resolved by not insisting on black text color. Some of the greatest hits from that thread: "This is a LO mindset problem. Don't assume that the average user has always the most rational or default settings. Boomer-Betsy, the secretary, clicked on every setting available to make sure the Excel file is the way she wants it." "This is sort of shit that generates massive amount of calls to the IT admin that sorts out such problems for boomers having no idea how to fix it. Do not force opt-in updates like that. This is a Libre problem. I'm talking in behalf of my friend that has enough of it. I demanded myself Office licence because I can't stand bullshit anymore. I tried to be OS friendly but Libre is not my friend. Do not force feed users update in such way." "Nah, it's better to just comply to what the OS is set to, as by now basically everywhere you can set dark or light mode system-wide. That being said, not only shouldn't they have rolled out the drak theme is this horribly broken state, but how tf is there not a really simple way to use dark mode with white working space?" "I also have to agree: We run multiple Fedora machines and after an update earlier this year, every LibreOffice install showed this behaviour, and worst of all: also for new documents. I am a huge LibeOffice fan, but I was baffled that this wasn’t tested for (our that we collective ran into some weird config) as this lead to a lot of user frustration."
But isn't this the roll of our 'Print preview' feature, to isolate any UI appearance settings from actual export/print WYSIWYG layout? As a final sanity check of the document content. If it is wrong in the preview, *that* is the indicator to user that they've got formatting issues and need to revisit. Otherwise they should adjust their UI appearance (apply os/DE provided Automatic, Dark, Light; or apply a revised Appearance theme). As folks transition releases, they'll find what they like and works for them and then stick with it. We just need to coach them on their options through Help, the GS and module specific guides, supplemented with feedback on Ask and project blogs.