I think there should be easier to change layer visibility and layer locking on Draw.
When creating/editing complex drawing, these feature are really useful, but by now one has to right-click the layer tab, choose a menu item to open a dialog, so you can (un)check these statuses and then click Ok. It is really annoying.
I propose a layer a bit wider with small icons to make these changes, like Gimp or Inkscape does.
Great suggestion! So, how about doing a mock up?
As currently structured, layers are only applicable to Draw where we see the three default layers for every drawing--Layout, Controls, Dimension Lines--and any additional layers created show on that horizontal tab bar. Seeing the name of the layer on the tab bar is functional.
Would the simple change to a radio-button labeled with the layer name be enough? Maybe make the tabs moveable, i.e. order of sequence is order of layering? Could see function to that.
Or, does the UI need a rework? Replace the tab'd layer manger with a proper multi action dialog? Perhaps move to the Sidebar with a Tab and dedicated Content Panel?
Then which button actions?
Active layer (obvious)
The current "shift-click" for toggling visibility might be extended for the other properties. For example Ctrl-click for toggling protection and alt-click for toggling printable. The status can be shown in the tab with font style italic for protected and inverse color for not printable.
You might want to follow the discussion in issue 90244, which is about enhancing the Navigator.
I was just about to submit a similar enhancement to include visibility and locking in the context menu of layers, so i do agree it needs to be more easily accessible.
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The design team or the UX team might discuss, which solution is the best. But at least my suggestion needs no further description and is a valid request.
Kind of duplicate to 56498 (and all similar tickets) but with some ideas here. Set component to Draw and keyword UX.
I believe this is covered in the enhancements to Navigator in bug 90244.
So lets leave this bug for toggling layer properties from the layer bar with click functionality like regina suggested in comment 2 and to add context menu entries for these options, as i mentioned in comment 4. If navigator gets redesigned (bug 90244) and the layer bar is removed, then this can be closed as WFM.
Would a patch implementing more layer attribute shortcuts according to comment#2 be accepted or is there some prior UX team discussion required?
I would propose a slight modification of the proposal in comment#2 because Mouse+Alt is used by Linux windows managers. We could use Shift+Ctrl instead.
Ulrich Gemkow committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":
tdf#89130 Draw: Better UI for handling layer attributes
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A polite ping to Ulrich Gemkow: is this bug fixed? if so, could you please close it as RESOLVED FIXED ? Thanks
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #12)
> A polite ping to Ulrich Gemkow: is this bug fixed? if so, could you please
> close it as RESOLVED FIXED ? Thanks
I am not sure: The bug report with its comments has at least two aspects: Adding the shortcuts for changing layer attributes and adding a layer sidebar for more control. My patch only handles the first aspect.
Would it be correct to close this bug and open another bug for the sidebar aspect (which references this bug)?
(In reply to Ulrich Gemkow from comment #13)
> (In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #12)
> > A polite ping to Ulrich Gemkow: is this bug fixed? if so, could you please
> > close it as RESOLVED FIXED ? Thanks
> I am not sure: The bug report with its comments has at least two aspects:
> Adding the shortcuts for changing layer attributes and adding a layer
> sidebar for more control. My patch only handles the first aspect.
> Would it be correct to close this bug and open another bug for the sidebar
> aspect (which references this bug)?
Yes, it's correct.
feel free to close this as RESOLVED FIXED and report a new one mentioning this one, either in the see also or in the description.
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #14)
> Yes, it's correct.
> feel free to close this as RESOLVED FIXED and report a new one mentioning
> this one, either in the see also or in the description.
As mentioned in comment 9, "lets leave this bug for toggling layer properties from the layer bar with click functionality like regina suggested in comment 2 and to add context menu entries for these options, as i mentioned in comment 4", so this bug hasnt been fixed yet as the context menu entries havent been added.
Gulsah added a lock symbol to tabs in Calc (bug 95880), so it would be more useful to have that same UI in Draw and replace the various font styles to show the state with symbols which are more easily understood.
I could try to implement this, when this is the preferred way and accepted/wanted from the UI experts. But - who can draw/design the other two icons (for "not visible" and "not printable") besides the lock symbol which is used in calc? What is the "process" to "request" icons?
And the next question: In comment 9 a context menu in proposed for changing the layer attributes. Should the context menu be additional to the shortcuts or replace them? If this is in addition there would be three ways to achieve the same (dialog box, contex menu, shortcuts). Is this really wanted? Who can decide this?
(In reply to Ulrich Gemkow from comment #17)
> I could try to implement this, when this is the preferred way and
> accepted/wanted from the UI experts.
+1 from this UI expert. Heiko, Stuart: thoughts?
> But - who can draw/design the other two
> icons (for "not visible" and "not printable") besides the lock symbol which
> is used in calc? What is the "process" to "request" icons?
If i am reading Gulsah's and Eike's patches correctly, the lock symbol is being rendered from a font and not an icon.
> And the next question: In comment 9 a context menu in proposed for changing
> the layer attributes. Should the context menu be additional to the shortcuts
> or replace them?
Additional to the click shortcuts.
> If this is in addition there would be three ways to achieve
> the same (dialog box, contex menu, shortcuts). Is this really wanted? Who
> can decide this?
Yes this would be wanted, as only advanced users would know/remember the shortcuts. You can take my decision on this. The entries would need to be new UNO commands, so that they can appear in the context menu xml file.
Maxim: Would it be possible to show click-based shortcuts for the UNO commands that would be added to the tab bar's context menu like Ctrl + Click?
On Hackfest Hamburg, April 2018, we have decided to start a project for improving handling of layers and internal structure. In case you start to work on this issue get in contact with Regina (firstname.lastname@example.org) or Armin (Armin.Le.Grand@me.com).