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Bug 95945 - Remove the 'Slide Master' icon from the View menu
Summary: Remove the 'Slide Master' icon from the View menu
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.1.0.0.alpha1
Hardware: All All
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Blocks: Main-Menu Display-View-Selector
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Reported: 2015-11-20 11:16 UTC by Óvári
Modified: 2020-05-31 08:43 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Óvári 2015-11-20 11:16:28 UTC
Win 8.1
Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+ (x64)
Build ID: 186f365a2c541c51e404b1fa819f35c9152adaf1
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-11-19_23:26:12

Is it possible to put the icons in the Display Mode in the View menu next to:
Normal
Outline
Notes
Slide Sorter
Slide Master
Notes Master
Handout Master

Thank you
Comment 1 Buovjaga 2015-11-22 09:50:02 UTC
Let's ask UX.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2015-11-22 10:45:48 UTC
You mean "possible" because of the radio button that are bind to these options. Or are you making a proposal to add an icon there?

I'd disagree with the idea. Radio buttons must not assigned to an icon. Alternatively it could be a toggle button (like bold|italic|underline) but such controls doesn't reflect the actual function, which is switching views/tabs. Furthermore those icon would make sense only if there would be a pendant in the UI.
Comment 3 Óvári 2015-11-22 12:08:20 UTC
Sorry for the misunderstanding Heiko Tietze.

I meant replacing the Radio buttons with the icons used in Display Mode.

The selected mode would have a box around it's corresponding icon.

An example where this is currently implemented:
View menu -> Comments (no box around icon for Comments)
View menu -> Comments (box around icon for Comments)

Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+ (x64)
Build ID: 186f365a2c541c51e404b1fa819f35c9152adaf1
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-11-19_23:26:12
displays an icon next to 'Slide Master'. Icons in the Display Mode tab and the View menu should be the same for consistency.

Thank you
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2015-11-23 10:58:38 UTC
The menu item to show comments is used for an on/off feature, and should rather display its state per check mark instead of the "boxed icon" that is actually a toggle button. Those toggle buttons are sometimes good as an alternative to radio buttons that provide a mutual exclusive selection: you can have only one kind of view at a time. However, toggle buttons might look nice but depending on the OS/display theme it can be really hard to identify the state (box/frame) in a glance. So the clear check mark is to prefer from the usability POV.

If you want to learn more about this topic you may want to read our HIG [1] or the more verbose Microsoft guidelines [2] where you should look for "Bullets and checkmarks" as well as the following "Icons" section.

Beside this considerations there are issues with the menu. The slide master state has an icon on Windows, the dependency of features (master) is not reflected in the menu, switching from normal to notes ends up in notes master (but not always), and sometimes I don't get the check mark for normal state.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/MenuBar
[2] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn742392%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
Comment 5 Óvári 2015-11-23 11:34:39 UTC
Thank you Heiko Tietze for your references in comment 4.

Perhaps the title of this bug should be changed to "Remove Slide Master icon from View menu in accordance with HIG (human interface guidelines)"?
Comment 6 Óvári 2015-11-23 11:42:15 UTC
Perhaps the "Display Mode" in the context of Slide, Notes, Outline etc could be changed to "Layout" as my understanding of display is the physical object (CRT, LED, LCD monitor/projector)?
Comment 7 Óvári 2015-11-23 11:44:13 UTC
Heiko Tietze, I agree with your comment 4:
"So the clear check mark is to prefer from the usability POV (point of view)."
Comment 8 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-12-01 07:09:36 UTC
Yep we dont need icons for the views, but we should remove the 'slide master' icon just from the menu and i'm not sure how it is possible to do it.

@Maxim, @Samuel: Is there of a means of not showing the small icon for an uno command only in the menu, as removing the samll icon file would cause problems for users using small toolbar icons.
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2017-03-06 15:47:03 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Óvári 2017-03-07 01:20:25 UTC
(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #9)
> If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes:
> a) the version of LibreOffice;
> b) your operating system;
> c) any changes you see in the bug behavior
LibreOffice Version: 5.3.0.3
Build ID: 7074905676c47b82bbcfbea1aeefc84afe1c50e1
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.4; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; Layout Engine: new

Operating system: Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon 64-bit

Changed heading based on comment #9
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2018-05-28 02:32:03 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 QA Administrators 2020-05-28 03:42:48 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 Óvári 2020-05-31 02:14:03 UTC
No icons are showing in version 6.4.4.2. Thank you
Comment 14 Buovjaga 2020-05-31 08:40:05 UTC
(In reply to Óvári from comment #13)
> No icons are showing in version 6.4.4.2. Thank you

I believe this is just because you are using GTK3 and it doesn't display any icons anywhere. The icons are still there with backends that show them.
Comment 15 Óvári 2020-05-31 08:43:45 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #14)
> I believe this is just because you are using GTK3 and it doesn't display any
> icons anywhere. The icons are still there with backends that show them.

Thanks for reopening this issue.

We fully transitioned off Windows in 2019. Only have Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Will select (never email me about this bug) as we can't check anymore. Sorry.