Bug 96371 - Tab stop in text box can't be set with ruler, but only in paragraph dialog
Summary: Tab stop in text box can't be set with ruler, but only in paragraph dialog
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
: 99384 117518 119522 128670 145620 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: Textbox
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Reported: 2015-12-09 20:30 UTC by Dominik Kopp
Modified: 2022-08-09 15:07 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Crash report or crash signature:

tab stop with text boxes (9.74 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2015-12-09 20:30 UTC, Dominik Kopp
Screenshot displaying the issue in Writer (44.97 KB, image/png)
2016-04-19 17:22 UTC, Johnny_M
Screenshot without issue in Draw (48.90 KB, image/png)
2016-04-19 17:24 UTC, Johnny_M
bug demo (783.21 KB, video/webm)
2016-12-08 21:56 UTC, Dominik Kopp

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Description Dominik Kopp 2015-12-09 20:30:40 UTC
Created attachment 121181 [details]
tab stop with text boxes

Adding a tab stop inside a Text Box isn't applied to text box.
Instead, the new tab stop applied to the normal text *outside* the Text Box.

As far I can see, many features like inserting tables are disabled for Text Boxes. Disabling tab stops for Text Boxes might be a valid solution.

My personal conclusion is: When I need tab stops I use frames instead of Text Boxes.
Comment 1 Buovjaga 2015-12-14 10:27:34 UTC

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version:
Build ID: 917d59a84124d1022bd1912874e7a53c674784f1
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-12-12_12:17:04
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)
Comment 2 Johnny_M 2016-04-19 17:11:09 UTC
*** Bug 99384 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Johnny_M 2016-04-19 17:22:25 UTC
Created attachment 124512 [details]
Screenshot displaying the issue in Writer

Another reproduction procedure:

1. Start LibreOffice, create a new Writer document.
2. In the top ruler, set a manual tab stop somewhere.
3. Hit TAB to move the carriage to the created tab stop and enter some text there.
4. Insert a text box somewhere.
5. With the mouse, move the tab stop in the text box ruler.

Expected results:
4. The text box gets inserted, with a new, default ruler.
5. Tab position for the text box changes.

Actual results:
4. The ruler of the main text body, containing the previously manually created tab stop is shown for the text box. Although hitting the TAB in the text box does not move the carriage to that mark, but to default tabulator positions.
5. Tab position of the text in the main text body changes.

Linux Mint 17.1 64-bit
LO from ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-0 (Build ID: 1:5.0.5~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty)

Also reproduced on 32-bit Debian:
Build ID: 170a473597534cf59887b1d817538322e7039862
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.3; UI Render: default;
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86@71-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-04-19_00:41:00
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8)
Comment 4 Johnny_M 2016-04-19 17:24:24 UTC
Created attachment 124513 [details]
Screenshot without issue in Draw

This issue seems to be specific to Writer text boxes and partially to the slide bodies in Impress:

- Draw: Issue does not occur - the tab stops can be set independently for each text box (see attached screenshot).

- Impress (Ruler is not shown by default and needs to be activated):
-- For title boxes: Issue does not occur.
-- For body boxes: No tab stop interdependence between the boxes, but at the same time the manually set tab stops have no effect - the default tab stops are used instead.

- Calc: Ruler cannot be shown and so no tab stops can be set.

Build ID: 1:5.0.5~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty
Comment 5 Cor Nouws 2016-12-06 16:37:11 UTC
Hi Dominik, *

Adding tabs to the text in the text bow works fine for me in Version:
Build ID: 63bf040056b64e0bf32a36277c54deee566de4fc
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Linux 4.8; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@70-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-12-06_00:37:50
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); Calc: group

can you pls check?
Comment 6 Dominik Kopp 2016-12-08 21:53:06 UTC
Hi Cor,

I've checked it and the bug is still there.

Adding tab stops inside a text box has only an effect outside of the text box.

Build ID: 72b70d933e50edf95e989c59a69c396db06bd5e9
CPU Threads: 1; OS Version: Linux 4.4; UI Render: default; VCL: x11; 
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@70-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-12-08_01:44:29
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 7 Dominik Kopp 2016-12-08 21:56:02 UTC
Created attachment 129409 [details]
bug demo

In that video I add and remove a tab stop inside of a text box. But actually it is added outside of the text box. (showed at the end of the video)
Comment 8 Cor Nouws 2016-12-09 21:42:40 UTC
Windows only?
Comment 9 Johnny_M 2016-12-09 23:14:24 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> Windows only?

It doesn't look like it. I can still reproduce it on 32-bit Debian with:
Build ID: 76c21c57b7de227df87a285c3907157242ccddde
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.6; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86@71-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-12-08_23:22:26
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 10 QA Administrators 2017-12-10 16:43:15 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 Joshua 2017-12-13 17:41:16 UTC
Just tested with 5.4.3, still exists (at least on Mac).

Downloaded and tested 6.0 beta2, still exists.
Comment 12 Dieter 2018-05-09 07:43:38 UTC
*** Bug 117518 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Regina Henschel 2018-08-27 16:45:18 UTC
*** Bug 119522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Regina Henschel 2018-08-27 16:51:36 UTC
Currently you need to specify the tab stop in the paragraph property of the text box. Using the ruler does not work in Writer. Tested with Version: (x64)
Build ID: 414ef6cb187dd3bbcc917dbedf3c0c1cc8668f60
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; 
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2018-08-21_00:13:04
Locale: de-DE (en_US); Calc: CL
Comment 15 Shunesburg69 2018-08-27 18:29:38 UTC Comment hidden (no-value)
Comment 16 QA Administrators 2019-09-02 09:27:42 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 17 Dominik Kopp 2019-09-02 13:24:45 UTC
still an issue with version
Comment 18 Dieter 2019-11-09 08:17:43 UTC
*** Bug 128670 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 19 QA Administrators 2021-11-09 04:38:47 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 20 Dominik Kopp 2021-11-10 08:56:13 UTC
Still an issue. (tested in Writer)

Version: / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 20(Build:2)
CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 5.14; UI render: default; VCL: kf5 (cairo+xcb)
Locale: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); UI: de-DE
Calc: threaded
Comment 21 Dieter 2022-08-09 15:06:07 UTC
*** Bug 145620 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22 Dieter 2022-08-09 15:07:40 UTC
Still present in

Version: (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 184fe81b8c8c30d8b5082578aee2fed2ea847c01
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL