Bug 56904 - Bundle Microsoft Access Database Engine 2010 Redistributable
Summary: Bundle Microsoft Access Database Engine 2010 Redistributable
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Base (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downlo...
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Keywords: needsDevEval
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Blocks: 56903 Database-MS_Access 97579 107890
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Reported: 2012-11-09 06:13 UTC by Lionel Elie Mamane
Modified: 2024-07-29 11:28 UTC (History)
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Description Lionel Elie Mamane 2012-11-09 06:13:36 UTC
Microsoft Jet 4.0 is no longer bundled with some versions of Windows. This means that unless Microsoft Office Access is installed on the computer, we cannot open MS Access files. This is easy to fix, just bundle the redistributable driver for it. It can be downloaded from http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13255
Comment 1 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2013-10-10 13:13:52 UTC
Hi Lionel,

What's the status of this bug/enhancement? Assuming it's still relevant, could you please move it to NEW and change it to a (confirmed) EasyHack?

Thanks!


(Side Note: What's the license on the driver?)
Comment 2 Lionel Elie Mamane 2013-10-10 14:03:12 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)

> What's the status of this bug/enhancement? Assuming it's still relevant,

Yes, it is relevant.

> could you please move it to NEW

Done.

> change it to a (confirmed) EasyHack?

My understanding is that it becomes a Easyhack, as opposed to a ProposedEasyHack when someone has checked there is no hidden bad surprise. This has not happened. This needs someone with a clue with Microsoft Windows.

> (Side Note: What's the license on the driver?)

Need to check in the download. Probably something similar to the msvc redistributables we already bundle?
Comment 3 Joel Madero 2014-02-27 22:55:07 UTC
In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval.

Thank you and apologies for the noise
Comment 4 Alex Thurgood 2015-01-03 17:38:32 UTC Comment hidden (no-value)
Comment 5 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2015-12-13 11:21:18 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2017-01-03 19:47:28 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 Alex Thurgood 2017-05-16 15:37:30 UTC
Still relevant today. We don't bundle Jet 4.0.
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2018-10-24 02:56:13 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 QA Administrators 2020-10-24 05:12:23 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 Jeff D. Hanson 2021-11-28 17:16:40 UTC
I recommend using UCanAccess:
https://ucanaccess.sourceforge.net/site.html

It doesn't do everything that ADE does but is cross-platform (Java) and has some advantages.  For example, ADE has a limitation in that VBA functions are not available over ODBC.  A query using Nz would have to be changed to IIF/IS NULL.  UCanAccess uses JDBC and supports Nz.

Instead of bundling a driver and increasing the installer size it would be better to handle drivers like DBeaver which has a driver installer that looks for the versions available and installs them as needed.
Comment 12 QA Administrators 2023-11-29 03:14:21 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 Mike Kaganski 2024-07-28 08:23:05 UTC
I suggest to close this WONTFIX.

1. This is a Windows-only improvement. We would still be unable to open these files on Linux / macOS.

2. There is a EULA attached to the MS redistributable. We can't have that EULA imposed on LibreOffice users.

We should simply provide some information about that in wiki; maybe with something in the program (or in help?) to point there easily.

Current version of the redistributable is at

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/download-and-install-microsoft-365-access-runtime-185c5a32-8ba9-491e-ac76-91cbe3ea09c9
Comment 14 jcsanz 2024-07-28 08:40:11 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #13)
> I suggest to close this WONTFIX.
> 
I agree.
Comment 15 jcsanz 2024-07-29 11:28:37 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #13)

> Current version of the redistributable is at
> 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/download-and-install-microsoft-
> 365-access-runtime-185c5a32-8ba9-491e-ac76-91cbe3ea09c9
This is the version of the Access runtime, that allows the execution of Access applications, and besides of the Access Database Engine install additional "things" we don't need.

I think it is better to download and install only the Database engine that is downloadable at 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54920