Created attachment 150553 [details] tabs layout proposal calc tab layout for sheets look outdated draw tab layout for layer look outdated attached is an idea how to modernize.
That's easy to change.
Really? I will make the icons if needed.
Created attachment 150558 [details] Current look in Excel Here's current sheet tab in Excel. To notice: 1 - Active tab is white (same color as spreadsheet cells), 2 - Text color of active tab is dark green (Excel color) and letters are in bold, 3 - Inactive sheets still have a line separating them, 4 - Text color of inactive tabs is black (or very dark gray), and text is not bold.
Created attachment 150559 [details] Hovering the mouse over inactive tabs text of hovered inactive tabs becomes Bold Another important detail in Excel that is lacking in Calc: When you over the mouse over the inactive tabs the letters of the tab over which the mouse is hovering change to bold.
Created attachment 150561 [details] Proposal 2 Proposal 2: 1 - Keep a small separator between inactive sheets; 2 - Text of inactive sheets should be same color as inactive buttons next to them; 3 - Background of active sheet is white. Text is black and bold. Full vertical borders separating active sheet from inactive sheets.
Created attachment 150562 [details] Hovering over inactive sheet names should change their letter to black/bold.
I like the idea to use separators, cause in statusbar there are also separators. And we can use the same style.
Don't forget that you can assign your own color to a tab (in Calc). Suggestion how to incorporate that into the new design?
Between the separator should be the user defined color and maybe an horizontal line with the user defined color.
+1 for every modernization of the look from me As long as a11y, OS-integration and tab colors are kept in mind.
LibreOffice Online use the icons from the icon theme and also don't use bold for the active tab. https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/LibreOffice-Online-Calc.png this is how it should look like.
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(In reply to andreas_k from comment #11) > https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/LibreOffice-Online-Calc.png > this is how it should look like. Looks confusing to me because from a first glance it looks like "Business planning" would be the active sheet because that tab contrasts most with its surroundings. Only a second look reveals that "Intro" is active.
Please also consider multi tab selection (bug 97555 comment 8).
(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #13) > (In reply to andreas_k from comment #11) > > https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/LibreOffice-Online-Calc.png > > this is how it should look like. > Looks confusing to me because from a first glance it looks like "Business > planning" would be the active sheet because that tab contrasts most with its > surroundings. Only a second look reveals that "Intro" is active. Agreed.
The current situation is not ideal. However I see no proposal that doesn't introduce a (different) problem. In this situation, I would touch it.
Tomaž Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/fad98c8641342a77241124dd98e0cb781daef4ad%5E%21 tdf#124572 TabBar new look, protected icon, width and height It will be available in 6.3.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
We talked about the proposal in the design meeting. Right now we have a (bright) theme color that merges with the sheet when the tab is active (plus the font becomes bold). In other words resp. additionally we draw a border around the non-active tabs (not sure it's the same after Tomaz latest patch). Selected tabs change their color to the active but keep the border and are by that easy to identify. Colored tabs receive a small border and change completely when not active. Happens also in case of multiselection. This behavior is easy to understand and works well. So the take is => WFM
huge thumb up to quikee very good work now the tabs didn't look out of place any more. many thanks
Created attachment 151027 [details] calc
Created attachment 151028 [details] draw in draw there are some usefull items missing that are available in calc (context menu). As in draw the tabs are layers I would suggest to show the visible icon (visible, non visible)than it's easier to understand that each tab is an layer.
The current tab view in Calc looks good, but one problem I see is that the width (left/right margin) is too big, which causes a waste of spaces. Assume that there a 100+ sheets in the file...
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #22) > Assume that there a 100+ sheets in the file... I suppose that in case of 100+ sheets, it doesn't actually matter. When it does is when there's ~10 sheets, and there's a margin between seeing them all or not. :-)
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #23) > (In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #22) > > Assume that there a 100+ sheets in the file... > > I suppose that in case of 100+ sheets, it doesn't actually matter. When it > does is when there's ~10 sheets, and there's a margin between seeing them > all or not. :-) If the number of sheets hit the other edge of the screen, tabs should start auto-shrinking to an optimal width to save space. With three sheets it does not really matter, but some of us work with a large number of sheets.
I created a bug yesterday #125378 Formatting - 6.3.0.0 Alpha1 has enlarged sheet tab with lots of wasted space I do not like the change. My bug shows two screenshots. The old I can see all 20 tabs. The new only shows 15 and requires scrolling. I am not against more modern look only if it doesn't hurt productivity. I'm all for leaving it the way it was. Rich
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Hi, this is not the final version yet, so the size of the tabs will be minimized, when the protected icon is taken into account at calculation of tab size.
Tomaz, can you assign the issue to yourself?
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Created attachment 151654 [details] Sheet tabs in 6.3.0.0.alpha1+ 2019-05-19 I see 2 parts of the new look with room for improvements: - Visible separation of tabs (now there's only the tab text that shows a tab [if a tab has no own color] but the user doesn't know the range on the left and right of the text where he can click on the tab and where begins the other tabs on both sides). - Visibility of active tabs (I like the look in a competitor's program [attachment 150558 [details]] where the active tab is "open" to the sheet at the top of the tab [like a real paper tab] -- all other not active tabs are separated from the active sheet content by a line -- with that it's visible at a glance which tab is active and which is not).
Tomaž Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/35870d411de99f278507785c4386dd02f9537073%5E%21 tdf#124572 Reduce tab bar item width It will be available in 6.3.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
thanks for your work Tomaz
Looks beautifull now. Verified in Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 9ee5ad5a0b84bfa652da34694ba4f75668f06087 CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2019-07-30_13:21:44 Locale: ro-RO (ro_RO.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded
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https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/234095/lo-64-calc-revert-flat-tabs/
Possibly it makes sense to introduce a hover effect (e.g., making text bold or tab highlighted or somesuch). But of course, that's for a separate issue.
Please make the name of the active sheet bold again so that one knows which sheet is active when multiple sheets are selected. Thank you. See bug 132470.
No it wasn’t. I have 7.1.8.1. I am not talking about the colour of the tabs. I am referring to a DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THEM, FOR CLEAR VISIBILITY OF EACH. Instead, they have used space, which means more scrolling then needed.
No it wasn’t. I have 7.1.8.1. I am not talking act the colour of the tabs. I am referring to a DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THEM, FOR CLEAR VISIBILITY OF EACH. Instead, they have used space, which means more scrolling.
Created attachment 177538 [details] demo document In this document you could see 4 sheets, but in fact there are 3. You can not know how many are because we don't have a separator. This bug solved the design, and I like the change very much, but also I agree here should be a very thin separator between sheets.
Created attachment 177539 [details] screenshot screenshot. Seems like 4 sheets, but in fact are 3
Quite artificial name "Sheet 1 Sheet 2", right. But nothing to say against a faint ruler between the sheets.
Created attachment 177542 [details] Lines between tabs Patch submitted
Heiko Tietze committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/90df5b09188c66c3a7752934650570246dfc321d Resolve tdf#124572 - Draw a faint line between tabs It will be available in 7.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #42) > Quite artificial name "Sheet 1 Sheet 2", right. But nothing to say > against a faint ruler between the sheets. ;) I agree. But the update you made today it's very good. Waiting for testing on 7.4.
Verified. Fix. It's much better now. Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha0+ / LibreOffice Community Build ID: bd5492275d31f59b1d269205018d1487af52426f CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 5.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 Locale: ro-RO (ro_RO.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded
(In reply to BogdanB from comment #46) > It's much better now. Thank you. Please also consider colored tabs, in which case the separator is not drawn. If adjacent tabs have the same color it might be an issue. Mike suggested to draw a line left and right but probably it would be too obtrusive.