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Bug 132398 - Adopt new application icons for LibreOffice 7.0
Summary: Adopt new application icons for LibreOffice 7.0
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.0.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
: 126518 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: UI-Theming
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Reported: 2020-04-25 10:26 UTC by Pedro
Modified: 2020-07-04 20:34 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Icons proposed (367.63 KB, image/png)
2020-04-25 10:26 UTC, Pedro
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Application main icon (124.05 KB, image/png)
2020-04-30 10:01 UTC, Heiko Tietze
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Description Pedro 2020-04-25 10:26:12 UTC
Created attachment 159916 [details]
Icons proposed

Considering that in 7.0, LO will have new branding in the about dialog, Start Center and loading banner it is also the perfect opportunity to introduce new app icons that are less generic and different from the file icons.

There's been ongoing work by the Design communnity in re-imagining the icons for LO and I would like to propose that this work becomes official and that new icons are introduced with 7.0.

After a lot of back and forth I would like to propose the icon concept done by Mohammed Rivan in attachment.
I see several advantages to this icon proposal:
1 - It keeps the original shape of the LO icons (the rectangular shape with a donkey ear),
2 - The icons are solid color. With the current focus on having light and dark themes in all OSes this means that the icons look good in both light and dark themes.
3 - They respect the LO color pallette.
4 - They follow modern design conventions, meaning that they will look good in most modern desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome 3, Windows 10 or MacOS.
Comment 1 andreas_k 2020-04-25 11:52:37 UTC
I prefer the icons from Rivan. They are easy to recognize and compare to what we have now simple. Fits good in app menues and taskbars.
Comment 2 Julien Nabet 2020-04-25 11:55:32 UTC
What's the license of this?
Comment 3 andreas_k 2020-04-25 12:09:21 UTC
second proposal for app icon redesign

https://dribbble.com/shots/5748727-LibreOffice-icons-redesign
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2020-04-25 15:35:32 UTC
Any artwork submission needs clear CC0 licensing and contributor release(s), M. Rivan has provided neither that could be found.
Comment 5 Muhammad Rivan 2020-04-26 01:35:23 UTC
Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz
Comment 6 V Stuart Foote 2020-04-26 06:17:44 UTC
(In reply to Muhammad Rivan from comment #5)
> Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC
> Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz

@Muhamad, thanks for your involvement, but please submit your contributors statement [1]. Obviously, a 'CC0' grant works best for use in a FOSS project like LibreOffice, but 'CC BY' also works.

=-ref-=
[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Developers#Example_Artist_Statement
Comment 7 Muhammad Rivan 2020-04-27 00:06:14 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6)
> (In reply to Muhammad Rivan from comment #5)
> > Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC
> > Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz
> 
> @Muhamad, thanks for your involvement, but please submit your contributors
> statement [1]. Obviously, a 'CC0' grant works best for use in a FOSS project
> like LibreOffice, but 'CC BY' also works.
> 
> =-ref-=
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/
> Developers#Example_Artist_Statement

Oh, I sent my statement before reading your message. BTW, "CC BY" should be okay, right?
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2020-04-27 09:45:36 UTC
I don't see need for new MIME type icons as we have beautiful artwork [1]. The icons are made per theme anyway, which is questioned in bug 126074. Personally, I value a clear brand over fancy icons- but the donkey ear seems quite strong to me OTOH. Missing piece is a nice app icon, requested in bug 50278 (or bug 103177) and shown in [2].

More input was made on [3] and [4]. Problem is that MIME type icons use the same images as application icons, see [5].

The ticket here is a duplicate of bug 126518, but I'll make the other a dup.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_Icons
[2] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/338849/libreoffice-doesnt-have-an-icon
[3] https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08995.html
[4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals
[5] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2910
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2020-04-27 09:46:15 UTC
*** Bug 126518 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Pedro 2020-04-27 15:35:12 UTC
I would definitely not change the mime type icons. Just the application icons.
Comment 11 Rizal Muttaqin 2020-04-28 16:32:56 UTC
If we (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> I don't see need for new MIME type icons as we have beautiful artwork [1].

For MIME type icons, the official (not themed one by the icon theme) should follow also the new app icon to keep them in harmonize state. Current MIME type icons should be updated especially for the element inside the paper. We can leave the border color and the white paper color as is.
Comment 12 Rizal Muttaqin 2020-04-28 16:57:10 UTC
This worth mentioning, but I love Paulo's effort here albeit his design proposal still leave question for dark environment. Although he talked about MIME type but we could have inspiration from his work


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96835#c2


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v2.png

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v1.png
Comment 13 Rizal Muttaqin 2020-04-28 16:58:40 UTC
(In reply to Rizal Muttaqin from comment #12)
> This worth mentioning, but I love Paulo's effort here albeit his design
> proposal still leave question for dark environment. Although he talked about
> MIME type but we could have inspiration from his work
> 
> 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96835#c2
> 
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v2.png
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v1.png

More discussion here: 

http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Mime-Type-Icons-Redesign-Proposal-tc4165489.html
Comment 14 Rizal Muttaqin 2020-04-28 17:03:07 UTC
Then I found this gem, these icon proposals are really stand out!!!




https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Paulojose
Comment 15 Heiko Tietze 2020-04-30 10:01:05 UTC
Created attachment 160118 [details]
Application main icon

My attempt for a nice app icon.
Comment 16 V Stuart Foote 2020-04-30 13:05:52 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #15)
> Created attachment 160118 [details]
> Application main icon
> 
> My attempt for a nice app icon.

Distinctive, and opening folio to opposing Writer & Calc leafs is a good representation if the perspective can be cleaned up.

But if it is for LibreOffice branding, why "The Document Foundation" label?
Comment 17 Kenneth Hanson 2020-04-30 18:50:34 UTC
I really like the current icons, and I would prefer to see someone create filled versions in the style of the current white icons, than to adopt a new set of filled icons or replace the white icons.

More generally, I dislike the current trend of constantly changing application icons in the name of fashion. Whatever is fashionable now will soon become outdated and need to be replaced again. I think it's better to maintain a consistent, recognizable style.
Comment 18 Pedro 2020-05-02 10:06:59 UTC
Well, this isn't constant change...
The LibreOffice icons haven't been updated since the first time they appeared.
The UI paradigms have changed, so changing the icons after 10 years is hardly a frequent change...
Comment 19 Kenneth Hanson 2020-05-05 05:00:36 UTC
@Pedro

The length of time between changes not the issue.

You state "They follow modern design conventions, meaning that they will look good in most modern desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome 3, Windows 10 or MacOS."

I looked at the proposed icons, and they do indeed follow current design trends closely. Importantly, they look completely different from the existing icons.

This is what I interpret as change in the name of fashion, or more generally, change for the sake of change. This is what I disagree with.