Created attachment 159916 [details] Icons proposed Considering that in 7.0, LO will have new branding in the about dialog, Start Center and loading banner it is also the perfect opportunity to introduce new app icons that are less generic and different from the file icons. There's been ongoing work by the Design communnity in re-imagining the icons for LO and I would like to propose that this work becomes official and that new icons are introduced with 7.0. After a lot of back and forth I would like to propose the icon concept done by Mohammed Rivan in attachment. I see several advantages to this icon proposal: 1 - It keeps the original shape of the LO icons (the rectangular shape with a donkey ear), 2 - The icons are solid color. With the current focus on having light and dark themes in all OSes this means that the icons look good in both light and dark themes. 3 - They respect the LO color pallette. 4 - They follow modern design conventions, meaning that they will look good in most modern desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome 3, Windows 10 or MacOS.
I prefer the icons from Rivan. They are easy to recognize and compare to what we have now simple. Fits good in app menues and taskbars.
What's the license of this?
second proposal for app icon redesign https://dribbble.com/shots/5748727-LibreOffice-icons-redesign
Any artwork submission needs clear CC0 licensing and contributor release(s), M. Rivan has provided neither that could be found.
Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz
(In reply to Muhammad Rivan from comment #5) > Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC > Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz @Muhamad, thanks for your involvement, but please submit your contributors statement [1]. Obviously, a 'CC0' grant works best for use in a FOSS project like LibreOffice, but 'CC BY' also works. =-ref-= [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Developers#Example_Artist_Statement
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6) > (In reply to Muhammad Rivan from comment #5) > > Hi there! It's Andreas' that derived from my work. The icons license is "CC > > Attribution". So the authors are Muhammad Rivan Febrian and Andreas Kainz > > @Muhamad, thanks for your involvement, but please submit your contributors > statement [1]. Obviously, a 'CC0' grant works best for use in a FOSS project > like LibreOffice, but 'CC BY' also works. > > =-ref-= > [1] > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ > Developers#Example_Artist_Statement Oh, I sent my statement before reading your message. BTW, "CC BY" should be okay, right?
I don't see need for new MIME type icons as we have beautiful artwork [1]. The icons are made per theme anyway, which is questioned in bug 126074. Personally, I value a clear brand over fancy icons- but the donkey ear seems quite strong to me OTOH. Missing piece is a nice app icon, requested in bug 50278 (or bug 103177) and shown in [2]. More input was made on [3] and [4]. Problem is that MIME type icons use the same images as application icons, see [5]. The ticket here is a duplicate of bug 126518, but I'll make the other a dup. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Gallery_Icons [2] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/338849/libreoffice-doesnt-have-an-icon [3] https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08995.html [4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals [5] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2910
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I would definitely not change the mime type icons. Just the application icons.
If we (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8) > I don't see need for new MIME type icons as we have beautiful artwork [1]. For MIME type icons, the official (not themed one by the icon theme) should follow also the new app icon to keep them in harmonize state. Current MIME type icons should be updated especially for the element inside the paper. We can leave the border color and the white paper color as is.
This worth mentioning, but I love Paulo's effort here albeit his design proposal still leave question for dark environment. Although he talked about MIME type but we could have inspiration from his work https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96835#c2 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v2.png https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v1.png
(In reply to Rizal Muttaqin from comment #12) > This worth mentioning, but I love Paulo's effort here albeit his design > proposal still leave question for dark environment. Although he talked about > MIME type but we could have inspiration from his work > > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96835#c2 > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v2.png > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Pj-document-icon-2015-11-13-v1.png More discussion here: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Mime-Type-Icons-Redesign-Proposal-tc4165489.html
Then I found this gem, these icon proposals are really stand out!!! https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Paulojose
Created attachment 160118 [details] Application main icon My attempt for a nice app icon.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #15) > Created attachment 160118 [details] > Application main icon > > My attempt for a nice app icon. Distinctive, and opening folio to opposing Writer & Calc leafs is a good representation if the perspective can be cleaned up. But if it is for LibreOffice branding, why "The Document Foundation" label?
I really like the current icons, and I would prefer to see someone create filled versions in the style of the current white icons, than to adopt a new set of filled icons or replace the white icons. More generally, I dislike the current trend of constantly changing application icons in the name of fashion. Whatever is fashionable now will soon become outdated and need to be replaced again. I think it's better to maintain a consistent, recognizable style.
Well, this isn't constant change... The LibreOffice icons haven't been updated since the first time they appeared. The UI paradigms have changed, so changing the icons after 10 years is hardly a frequent change...
@Pedro The length of time between changes not the issue. You state "They follow modern design conventions, meaning that they will look good in most modern desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome 3, Windows 10 or MacOS." I looked at the proposed icons, and they do indeed follow current design trends closely. Importantly, they look completely different from the existing icons. This is what I interpret as change in the name of fashion, or more generally, change for the sake of change. This is what I disagree with.
I think the current icons are perfect, aside from the primary LibreOffice suite icon, which is too plain and looks like a generic file icon (on Windows), which makes it likely to be looked over in a cluttered desktop. It needs some extra detail on the sheet of paper to further differentiate it from a generic file. Other than that, I think the current icons' designs are perfect.
The topic started with a few application icons. Since we decided to have those themable (see bug 126074) a complete theme is welcome - and icon designers may pick up the idea, but the actual request is WF. However, the thread made it clear that we need a better main icon. The plain TDF symbol (rectangular shape, donkey ear, black and white) is boring and does not fit well into the OS/DE design. So far the only proposal is what is referenced in comment 12. I updated the summary to v8. Would be nice to have something until then.
Created attachment 178013 [details] Icons shared by Rizal on Telegram Some more proposals submitted to Telegram * https://i.imgur.com/1WNmrLs.jpg * http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/bokehlicia/captiva/256/libreoffice-main-icon.png (by https://www.deviantart.com/bokehlicia) * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Paulojose#Icons_submitted_to_the_Telegram_group_in_July_2020
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Hi Guys, I am an ordinary LO user who would like to make a suggestion. If you are redesigning the LO icons can you include the desktop icon which is created when LO is installed. I have used LO for several years and I cannot remember that being anything other than a boring empty white box with a fold in the top right corner (Microsoft default?) Nearly all the other icons on my desktop are customised to match the application. Thank you
(In reply to Martin Terry from comment #24) > I have used LO for several years and I cannot remember > that being anything other than a boring empty white box with a fold in the > top right corner (Microsoft default?) It's part of the topic, in particular for bug 50278
Comments #20 & #21 make the same point about the main desktop icon. The attached image of suggested app main icon is interesting. Not sure how it would appear when squashed down to desktop size though! Slightly confused by reference to bug 50278 as that seems to be a MACOS issue.
WIP, see https://fosstodon.org/@libodesign/108729928510768893
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galjit committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/91672a9b353d404bcd7c81d99d1cf6a597b9cac3 Related tdf#132398 - Remove locolor icons It will be available in 7.5.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
First patch removed the locolor icons. Follow-up's with new icons are coming.
galjit committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/298588598af246250a89baa492fade686c8df270 Related tdf#132398 - Remove Hicolor Assets for Future Revamping It will be available in 7.5.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
New macOS icons merged in commit b24dfa7ef93bc31ed9ccfb3e3472109bbd384b15
galjit committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/31a953c7edb22f5fac1e81d92db24e1915b9b317 Related tdf#132398 - Update .ico files - Dec 2022 It will be available in 7.6.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
galjit committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "libreoffice-7-5": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/2ee9bb7ce0dde890cac9971d88788c596de550cf Related tdf#132398 - Update .ico files - Dec 2022 It will be available in 7.5.0.0.beta2. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/e3b1cce7dde7e964c7670dd24a167e750654685a tdf#132398 Update icons for Online help navigation
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "libreoffice-7-5": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/9694f217b0e62ff60a3a248987084dcfc8160764 tdf#132398 Update icons for Online help navigation
Verified that new icons are used with: Version: 7.5.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: ad085990b8073a122ac5222e5220f8f1d6826dcf CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded We need a good final picture for the release notes, if anyone would like to add something that will be guaranteed to look better than my usual screenshots :) Thanks all!
Created attachment 184208 [details] Not showing properly in Windows The new icons are not showing properly in latest dev version from today in Windows 10. Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 8635c9aa8c6f1078a9e220076d5a08daf30077e8 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: pt-PT (pt_PT); UI: en-US Calc: threaded
(In reply to Pedro from comment #42) > Created attachment 184208 [details] > Not showing properly in Windows > > The new icons are not showing properly in latest dev version from today in > Windows 10. Please create a new report
(In reply to Pedro from comment #42) > The new icons are not showing properly in latest dev version from today in > Windows 10. IIRC on Windows you'll need to add the WRITE_RREGISTRY=1 stanza to a command line launch of the installer, i.e. "msiexec.exe /a LibreOfficeDev_7.6.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86-64_20221217_TB77.msi WRITEREGISTRY=1" For safety, the nightly dev builds for Windows have never written into the MS Windows system registry. Testing something with tight os/DE integration--like the new application IDs--requires Of course while doing so should show the new icons, it can also disrupt any existing Windows registry settings for existing LibreOffice release. The nightly dev instance will be in registry as "LibreOfficeDev", an existing install, e.g. 7.4.3 gets entered/upgraded as "LibreOffice" so it is possible to manually repair the registry when removing the nightly. Suggests safest/easiest to work with it in a VM if need to test deeply integrated features with Windows os/DE.
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #44) > LibreOfficeDev_7.6.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86-64_20221217_TB77.msi WRITEREGISTRY=1" s/ WRITEREGISTRY=1/ WRITE_REGISTRY=1 it needs the underscore...
I have just installed the new stable version 7.5 and I can see that the various icons used by LO have been updated as covered by this topic. I am, however, quite disappointed that the main LO icon see on the windows desktop or Task Bar remains as a boring empty white box, albeit with a thicker black border. Every other application that I use has a customised icon. A missed opportunity? See previous comments 20,21 & 24 Is this suggestion still being considered? P.S. Thanks for all the work on version 7.5 from a dedicated long term LO user who wouldn't touch MS Office/Office365 with a bargepole. LibreOffice is great.
(In reply to Martin Terry from comment #46) > I have just installed the new stable version 7.5 and I can see that the > various icons used by LO have been updated as covered by this topic. I am, > however, quite disappointed that the main LO icon see on the windows desktop > or Task Bar remains as a boring empty white box, albeit with a thicker black > border. Every other application that I use has a customised icon. A missed > opportunity? Not so simple as it would mean updating the trademark: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Trademark_Policy#The_Marks
The app icon wouldn't be affected by the TM. Point is rather to find a appealing design that still depicts the paper clip, identifies as LibreOffice and something generic in contrast to the modules, and works on all platforms. Everyone is welcome to submit proposals.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #48) > The app icon wouldn't be affected by the TM. Point is rather to find a > appealing design that still depicts the paper clip, identifies as > LibreOffice and something generic in contrast to the modules, and works on > all platforms. Everyone is welcome to submit proposals. I mean it would need to be added to the TM.