When using the spreadsheet module clicking on file/recent documents lists the last 10 documents opened in the LO suite. This is inconvenient when looking for a specific spreadsheet which pre-dates the 10 listed documents especially if they are relevant to another module such as the word processor. Change this feature so that it displays the 10 most recent documents opened in the current module as first preference; a second preference could be made available to list documents from all modules.
Thanks for reporting this enhancement! I can't find any duplicate, therefore I mark this as NEW. Kind regards, Joren
Looks like a duplicate of bug 42295.
(In reply to comment #2) > Looks like a duplicate of bug 42295. indeed, but that bug is closed due a not-responding reporter I guess. This is now an enhancement request :-). Thanks for hunting! (I'll place it in the 'See also' field)
This could be implemented as part of Recently Used Files list enhancement in bug 61174, point 3.
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While originally submitted against calc - spreadsheet. This enhancement is more appropriate against entire suite, especially with other bugs (bug 48960, bug 49680, etc.) being closed as duplicates of it. Adjusting component to UI. Also, would suggest an importance of this enhancement as High, but I'll let another reviewer make that adjustment.
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Just added the bug to the votelist.
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Hi :) Read my comment here https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67158#c1 " It is an essential part of LibreOffice that the modules work integrated. I.e.: one does not have to start Calc in order to start or open a spreadsheet: you can do that while working in any file. In the same line, users will expect that they may open recent Writer documents, while working in Calc. Etc. So I think this intentional behaviour really will not be changed. " Most people I've seen workin gwith OO and LibreOffice (and that are a lot) see this as an advantage over other office software. So as an option.... fine. Longer list recent documents. Good. Or more ideas to tweak the list: excellent too. Ah well...
How about give the user the choice of how they wish to see rencent items? Is not the the real goal of open source software, to give power to users and not someone remote that had differing priorities?
Sound OK to me. bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org wrote: > *Comment # 13 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56696#c13> > on bug 56696 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56696> from > Michael <mailto:mhb@pennlinen.com> * > > How about give the user the choice of how they wish to see rencent items? Is > not the the real goal of open source software, to give power to users and not > someone remote that had differing priorities? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > You are receiving this mail because: > > * You reported the bug. >
(In reply to comment #13) > How about give the user the choice of how they wish to see rencent items? Ah yes, one more option. No problem for me ;) > Is not the the real goal of open source software, to give power to users and > not someone remote that had differing priorities? The goal is to give users to power help to change/improve the sofware, not just to ask others to do it :) Note that the issue already is set as an enhancement. Anyone willing to work on implemention is more then welcome. When needed, other devs are always willing to give a little help.
I strongly disagree, to the point that me (and especially my wife! She gets VERY annoyed!) would stop using LibreOffice. (and revert back to Office 97!) The reason: because we generally use ONE program at a time. Generally Spreadsheet OR Word, rarely both! Very annoying to open Excel/ Calc and click "open" and find no excel documents in the list (only Writer/ doc files)!! :( THIS IS VERY bad, for me! So a fix for this would be to have several types of (optional) recent docs displayed in a pull down menu. E.g. Recent Calc; Recent Writer (.doc), etc. Maybe these (if required) could be enabled/ disabled under the preference/ options setting. I honestly have been looking for this since open office days and I am still waiting.... please....
@mick: thanks for the clear explanation. Pls look at File > New .. It's one office suite, not a splitted one. Regards, Cor
hmm apologies. Maybe I was too fast. Mixing up two things - option to have File > Recent used documents work per module (OK) - wish to split LibreOffice in separate programs (Not OK)
@Cor--correct this enhancement remains valid. The number of bugs filed requesting similar enhancement suggests it remains a high value requirement for numerous users. bug 42295 bug 48960 bug 49680 bug 59058 bug 62359 I could see consolidating under bug 61174, otherwise retain. Additionally, 2013 GSOC work on Start Center (see bug 64088 and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas#Use_Widget_Layout_for_the_Start_Center ), as well as work for Windows OS 7+ integration-- bug 35785 -- have very substantive changes to the UX of MRU implemented in master targeted for LO 4.2.0 Users will need an opportunity to work with those enhancements and see if we've hit the mark. Stuart
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Still a valid (though IMO not useful) request. > New
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This has nothing to do with the start center, so not sure why it was labelled that way, as the recent documents list appear in the File menu and in the Open split button.
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #27) > This has nothing to do with the start center, so not sure why it was > labelled that way, as the recent documents list appear in the File menu and > in the Open split button. +1, But maybe "nothing to do with start center" is a bit strong. Start Center thumbnail views are built based on what is held in the MRU list per user in their profile. In fact the preview "thumbnails" for the Start Center are held with the MRU entry per user in profile. So, while this remains an issue for enhancement to the File -> Recent Documents menu list under meta bug 61174 -- there remains an identical issue with MRU in the graphical interface of the Start Center -- bug 80934 "START CENTER: A GUI means to filter the thumbnail view list of MRU recent documents by module" under meta bug 61914 Suspect the filtering of MRU -- by list or by thumbnail view, would be designed and developed together.
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@Xisco --> high (for dupes and CC counts)?
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I work every day with Writer and Calc in my office. So when I need a file recently closed, no matter what kind it is I could find very easy from recent documents. I consider it is ok like it is now. One solution to close this bug could be in Options to have a checkbox with "Recently documents by module". So, who wants this option could be happy checking that checkbox. For the rest, this checkbox will be not checked.
I work a lot every day with Writer and Calc, and other programs. The recent documents of those programs are not found in the recent ones of LibreOffice, of course. So I have to go to those programs to open its recent documents. If I go to Calc, sometimes I don't find the recent documents of Calc because... what I see in Calc are a lot of recent files of Writer. If I go to Writer, sometimes I don't find the recent documents of Writer because... what I see in Writer are a lot of recent files of Calc.
Bug #130508 had a UI proposal/mockup that allowed solving the problem while satisfying both types of users without needing an option for it.
(In reply to Jean-François Fortin Tam from comment #36) > Bug #130508 had a UI proposal/mockup that allowed solving the problem while > satisfying both types of users without needing an option for it. Hi Jean-Fraincois, Thanks for taking effort to do that proposal. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130508#c0 For the menu under gtk3 that would be possible, was you write. Alternatively, under file we could have two entries: Recent Documents Recent <XYZ> Documents Two columns or two menu's seems impossible for the start center. What about the next? File Recent Documents [] Current document type only - - - - <file 1 > <file .. > Which of course should retain the chosen setting..
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(Coming from the askbot site. https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/300334/can-writer-recent-documents-only-show-text-documents/ and similar questions are to find there.) It may already have been posted, but I couldn't find this suggestion: Make the first item under the menu item >File>Recent_Documents a link to a next-level submenu outlining the types. So far it's only UI-related. In addition each one of the outlined lists may show more of the special part of the history than the all-types item does.
It's strange, this enhancement request hasn't been solved yet, after 8+ years! I have LibreOfice 7.0.5.2. The home screen of LibreOffice (called "Start Center"?) seems fine. ***Let's just talk about Recent Documents.*** The Recent Documents doesn't seems satisfying to me. I read various suggestions. My suggestion is to show only spreadsheet files in Calc's Recent Documents list, and show only document files in Writer's Recent Documents list. Here one may argue that people love to have option to open all kinds of recently opened files from single point - Recent Documents - from all/any LibreOffice module. Then, to let users' choose, an option should be provided in LibreOffice settings if they want to view all types of files in all modules or only files of only the particular module they are in. For the users supporting my suggestion (and optionally with an option in LibreOffice Settings - as mentioned above) - if a user is presently using Writer and he wants to open recent spreadsheet then he can create a new spreadsheet and open the recent spreadsheet from it's Recent Documents list. Only one step is increased, but seems more convenient. (One more optional suggestion is to rename the "Recent Documents" to "Recent Files" for obvious reason - not all files are documents.)
May I suggest adding a configuration option similar to org.openoffice.Office.Common > History > Size to help power users who want this feature. For example, a boolean org.openoffice.Office.Common > History > OnlyModuleSpecificTypes which is false by default but can be enabled. Then no UI changes, such as a second list, are necessary. These take time to discuss. Is it difficult to implement the list filtering by currently active module? How would one do that, which are the relevant source files to start such a process?
(In reply to Johannes Buchner from comment #42) > May I suggest adding a configuration option similar to > org.openoffice.Office.Common > History > Size > to help power users who want this feature. This is a different feature request. The PickListSize isn't directly related to this topic. The setting was moved from the anybody level to the expert level. A power user can set the PickListSize via Options-->LibreOffice-->Advanced-->Open Expert Configuration. > > For example, a boolean > org.openoffice.Office.Common > History > OnlyModuleSpecificTypes > which is false by default but can be enabled. > Then no UI changes, such as a second list, are necessary. These take time to > discuss. > > Is it difficult to implement the list filtering by currently active module? > How would one do that, which are the relevant source files to start such a > process? What's the "currently active module" while you are editing a Math formula embedded into a Writer document? The UI will tell you, it's Math. See also bug#80934.
> What's the "currently active module" while you are editing a Math formula embedded into a Writer document? The UI will tell you, it's Math. That is an edge case, and I would not mind in that context being offered Math choices. Actually I don't recall ever meeting it and I have been using LibreOffice, and OpenOffice before, since at least 2001. +1 for filtering by current module, even math.
Recent documents are listed under File and in the start center. Both are meant to show all documents of a project rather than a limited list. I suggest to sort the menu and to show the 5 most recent but module specific items first followed by the other items after a separator.
I came here searching on how to ask for this enhancement. I would really be thankful if I was offered the choice to show only currently active libo module documents list.
Created attachment 185040 [details] First implementation of the enhancement
So we have established that it is feasible to filter by module. I personally would rather see just the history relevant to my current module. Most software works this way. Excel doesn't show me Word files and so on.
We intentionally do not filter but sort with Andreas' patch. You should be able to open a recent document from another module without going into the start center (and it's shared code anyway). In addition I'd like to have some favorite tag to make items appear on top.
I work with office software all day. Today I used at least a dozen spreadsheet files and half a dozen word processor documents spread across many locations. The most recently used list in Excel or Word helps me find them again tomorrow, wherever they are. What you have prototyped would show me only the last 5 spreadsheets and the last 5 documents, however many I want to see, and then waste my attention listing a presentation I glanced at two weeks ago. But OK. You are the guardians of this functionality and it's only ever going to work the way you want it to. I have said my thing, as have many others since 2013 but you vehemently disagree and there is nothing we can do about it.
Should we create an expert or an ui option to show only the current files for the current module disabled by default?
(In reply to graham from comment #50) > What you have prototyped would show me only the last 5 spreadsheets... Didn't know this would be so controversially. You would really prefer to list more spreadsheets and rather than having quick access to related text documents? (In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #51) > Should we create an expert or an ui option to show only the current files > for the current module disabled by default? I'm afraid that's the only way to make everyone happy.
(In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #51) > Should we create an expert or an ui option to show only the current files > for the current module disabled by default? Yes, please!
In the meantime I have spent several hours thinking about this old feature request. Well, measured by the 10 years it had to wait, that's not much. But my conclusion is that new options (expert configuration?) and UI features make things too complicated. While many users here have expressed interest, in general few will work with so many documents in a short time that they have a real need for the enhancement discussed here. Therefore: 1. No new alternative! If the enhancement is taken up, the picklist should be REPLACED by a tree organized by document types: 1 branching level. (The "thumbnails" can disappear again in the process. A lot of effort for the few seconds -if any- for which the start screen can be seen). 2. for me an amateur solution, which I have developed in the basics (in Basic) can do -after the finished elaboration- even more than any new built in feature: at the start of LibreOffice a temporary spreadsheet is created, which shows an excerpt from the registrymodifications.xcu, assigns the working files to the used load filters in columns, and also creates hyperlinks to open them. My test runs for reading the .xcu show that this can be done -or updated- in a second. [With the help of www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)] BTW: Before I probably finish the mentioned approach: Can somebody assure that the two sequences of history/picklist related items in the registrymodification are given in the same order? Only th first one contains the filters, but only the second one has the ordinal numbers (more recently close <==> lower index).
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #52) > (In reply to graham from comment #50) > > What you have prototyped would show me only the last 5 spreadsheets... > Didn't know this would be so controversially. You would really prefer to > list more spreadsheets and rather than having quick access to related text > documents? Yes! If I want to work with presentations, I will have open Impress anyway.
Imho, the current implementation suits most of the user base, if we include an expert option. Maybe the design team can elaborate the enhancement in a design meeting. I don't know if a tree view including one branch adds additional complexity to the recent documents item list. I am against an additional user interaction to open a file from the recent document list.
(In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #56) > Imho, the current implementation suits most of the user base, if we include > an expert option. Agreed
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(In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #56) > Imho, the current implementation suits most of the user base, if we include > an expert option. +1 and as an Expert Configuration stanza. But maybe also carve out a UI checkbox on one of the Options dialog panels, General perhaps. > ... > I don't know if a tree view including one branch adds additional complexity > to the recent documents item list. I am against an additional user > interaction to open a file from the recent document list. I don't understand. We can already open documents interactively from the MRU listbox of File -> Recent Documents by clicking on the entry, or by typing the entry "number" from the list. That seems interactive enough to me as well. And a tree view pick list per module seems overly complex to me as well.
@Andreas, * While working through this, also be mindful of what could need to happen in profile for bug 99716, which then might support alternative handling of the MRU history.
Andreas Heinisch committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/6836776fa295293c114c267bca38d18603993a54 tdf#56696 - Sort recent document list according to current LibO module It will be available in 7.6.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
The expert option "ShowCurrentModuleOnly" can be set under Tools – Options – LibreOffice – Advanced – Expert Configuration.
Thank you!
You're welcome 😀 It is sometimes difficult to find which features which should be implemented since bugzilla does not provide any additional features in the reports like number of cc's, number of clicks, or number of duplicates in the search view. Or at least I did not find it. If anybody finds some time, this enhancement could be listed in the release notes.
Added to release notes to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6#GUI
Verified. Checked with Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 9259f79517bec3e7ebbc423eca098694fbf2a079 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: de-DE Calc: threaded If expert option is set, there are only shown files for the module in the recent document list. In the start centre there are shown all files for all modules. Thanks for implemented this!
(In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #66) > It is sometimes difficult to find which features which should be implemented > since bugzilla does not provide any additional features in the reports like > number of cc's, number of clicks, or number of duplicates in the search > view. Or at least I did not find it. Hey Andreas, there are pages in the LibreOffice Wiki that list these stats! - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Stats/MostCCBugs - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Stats/MostDupesBugs You can also find a few more categories here: - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Statistics - - - And thanks for preemptively solving this person's issue 2 months ahead of time! :) - https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/12vjcf6/how_do_i_hide_specific_filetypes_from_libre/
Hi Tex2002ans! Thank you for pointing me to this pages! I did not know about them. I am always happy when an enhancment fixes some issues around LibreOffice and helps users to get their work done :)
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(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #63) I have a suspicion that this can be responsible for the failure to sort last unpinned items according to last use - the items from the middle, opened now, stay in the middle of the list, instead of becoming the first?
After the commit for bug 38742 introducing pinned document items this should be fixed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/152690 if I am not mistaking.
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #72) > (In reply to Commit Notification from comment #63) > > I have a suspicion that this can be responsible for the failure to sort last > unpinned items according to last use - the items from the middle, opened > now, stay in the middle of the list, instead of becoming the first? Tested it again including all the relevant commits and you are right. It should be moved to the first position after it was opened. The change in bug 38742 does not move opened documents to the first position of their section. Thank you mike for testing the issue!
Thank you devs for implementing the Expert Option to filter Recently Used documents by application type!
Today, I've remembered again how this feature eased my work. It's also good for people coming from other office suites. Thank you very much.
Yes, well done, working well for me. What's the process to move this from an expert option to something more visible to ordinary users?