Created attachment 96198 [details]
LibreOffice in fullscreen mode
In Mac OS fullscreen mode (Mac OS X > 10.7), menubar will disappear (correctly) but screen will not be resized to hide the withe ribbon. Look at Safari, Mail or some other Apple application for the correct behavior.
Switch to e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/libreoffice-40-osx/ under LO > Preferences > Personalization to better view the top white bar which should not be there.
I think we should just remove the current hack to "support" full-screen mode from the code. As I tried to say many times in that other bug report about it, it is a somewhat barebones hack and not at all well thought out and/or tested, and the interaction with LO's own full-screen concept is unclear. Anyway, if it doesn't work, don't try to use it.
@Foss: What does Firefox have to do with this? I don't use Firefox on OS X.
Confirmed in LibreOffice (Dev) 4.4.0 alpha1 under Mac OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) x86-64
*** Bug 91086 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This bug still exists in LO in further releases. Even in 184.108.40.206
It is strongly necessary to kill or something like that.
OS X 10.11.1
LO Version: 220.127.116.11.alpha1+
Build ID: 4d9f4af05f78e8c5126e011e89a172026021691a
TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2015-11-06_10:37:14
Locale: de-DE (de.UTF-8)
The problem seems to be specific for users under 10.10
10.8.5 reproduces this bug everywhere, even today's latest dev-version.
Removing comma from Whiteboard (please use a space to delimit values in this field)
Tested with: Mac OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 (15E2066) with LibreOffice Version: 18.104.22.168
Build ID: d3bf12ecb743fc0d20e0be0c58ca359301eb705f
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Mac OS X 10.11.4; UI Render: default.
It seems using the native OSX full-screen behaviour (which now puts the zoomed in window in it's own space), is broken. The central issue is how LO handles Spaces on OSX.
Workaround: Double click on the window's title bar to maximise the window (like 'full screen' in earlier OSX versions).
Related, possibly duplicated, issues ~
Missing menu bar: #53282, #76476, #96134, #97402, #97709.
Extra blank screen: (black- was grey) #72490, #83378, #96134.
General: #85259, #95362.
See comment #2. I don't think I have had any reason to change my opinion.
*** Bug 101937 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
My car has something that don't work well at the brakes... OK, remove the brakes: problem solved ;-P
Adriano: Can we expect a fix from you then?
If I had the skill in order to do it, I wouldn't ask others to do it.
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This bug still exists in LO 5.4.3002 on macOS 10.11.6, even it's behavior is a little changed. The menubar now appears replaced from a black bar instead from a withe bar, but document didn't use entry screen like before. The correct behavior for OS X (now macOS) fullscreen mode, is that the content of document windows covers entry screen, even the menubar. There will be 20-30 pixel more space in height, nothing really indispensable... but the bug is still there.
And I noticed another strange behavior related to macOS fullscreen mode (don't know if it need to open another bug report): in fullscreen mode, if I close the opened document, LibreOffice hold in fullscreen mode with a blackscreen, and the only thing I can do, is to open a new document to exit fullscreen mode, or quit LibreOffice. The correct behavior is that LibreOffice exits from fullscreen mode if the fullscreen document will be closed.
Please note that there are two different "full-screen" modes: The traditional cross-platform LibreOffice one (View > Full Screen), and the system one (the green roundel in the left end of the title bar of a window. See comment #2. I have no reason to change my opinion.
When commenting here, please make sure which full-screen mode you are talking about.
If I simply remove the broken "support" for system full-screen mode, will people scream?
(In reply to Tor Lillqvist from comment #17)
> Please note that there are two different "full-screen" modes: The
> traditional cross-platform LibreOffice one (View > Full Screen),
In the latest versions of LibreOffice, it was replaced from system one. LibreOffice "full-screen" mode is still available by doble clicking on the document title bar or option-clicking "the green roundel in the left...". So, as you can see, I'm aware form what I'm talking. But this is not the point.
I'm aware that's not a stopping issue too, but behavior is still there and not OS coherent.
And one more thing: I think that the lake of full-screen exit (systems one) after document closure, is a noisier bug than the wrong document resizing.
> If I simply remove the broken "support" for system full-screen mode, will
> people scream?
I think none will scream, but it's not a serious way to respond to people that spend their time to give a contribution to make LO better (in this case only for OS coherence). Independently how little the contribution are.
Congratulations, you have managed to confuse the issue with a third kind of "full-screen mode".
The two modes I was talking about was LO's own one, View > Enter Full Screen, and the system one (click on the green roundel without Option).
Double-clicking the title bar is a third thing... it would be called "Maximising", not "full-screen", I think. (And apparently Option-clicking the green roundel does the same as double-clicking.)
Er, just View > Full Screen, not "Enter Full Screen", sorry.
Created attachment 137811 [details]
macOS split view with LibreOffice (left) and NeoOffice (right)
> The two modes I was talking about was LO's own one, View > Enter Full
> Screen, and the system one (click on the green roundel without Option).
OK, you are true. Now the two things have different behavior... today morning I tried LO Full Screen and get OS fullscreen mode. Can't explain how it's possible, and can't repeat the behavior again... maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe so.
In any case, the macOS fullscreen mode, enables another mode called split view, that works with LO (with the same little bug from holding an unused space in place from menubar), so it's not a useless duplicate from LO fullscreen.
I attach a side-by-side screenshot from a split view mode with LibreOffice on the left and NeoOffice on the right.
Still present (now black bar) and this was also the case in OOo
Build ID: a488c7ad2763b944713997911c1ddb0315d8c93f
CPU threads: 2; OS: Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI render: default;
TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2018-03-26_00:38:29
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group
Well, why wouldn't it still be present? Do you see any comment claiming any fix would have been committed?
(In reply to Tor Lillqvist from comment #25)
> Well, why wouldn't it still be present? Do you see any comment claiming any
> fix would have been committed?
Nope, just doing some QA work on mac bugs trying to clean up the bug tracker of duplicates, so thought I'd just update the status on this so other's don't need to test
*** Bug 97402 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Ah ok, good! Sorry for over-reacting.
That's strange, admin do you know where my comments went? I wrote a couple years ago and also started this issue, and no sign of my comments anywhere.
Nvm found it, it was in 97402.
Suggested fix in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/54760/ .
The fix still leaves some minor ugliness in the full-screen support. But the resources (time) available to work on this crack are limited. The alternative would be to simply not participate in the system full-screen mode at all, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/48796/ . So don't tempt me.
Should be fixed now when LibreOffice doesn't participate in the system full-screen mode any longer.
Getting rid of a feature is the new way to fix things in the Open Source world now ? (See Gnome devs.)
A feature that ALL MacOS Apps have.
Ever thought to ask Apple for some help ?
Tor, your efforts on this project are appreciated by millions worldwide so please don't take this as a complaint as much as it is a suggestion.
I use LO on macOS exclusively for all word processing and spreadsheets. The irritation of having a black screen when closing a document that was in system full screen mode was far less than the irritation that I experience not being able to take my documents into system full screen mode. System FS allows you to swipe through multiple docs with gestures which is so much more time saving than having to go down to the task bar and change between docs or swipe up and then select the right one. I would gladly accept the black screen issue over not having the functionality at all. Please, please, please bring it back, broken or not.
(In reply to Tor Lillqvist from comment #31)
> Suggested fix in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/54760/ .
> The fix still leaves some minor ugliness in the full-screen support. But the
> resources (time) available to work on this crack are limited. The
> alternative would be to simply not participate in the system full-screen
> mode at all, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/48796/ . So don't tempt me.
For me, it is fixed in version 6.1.5
In the View menu, I select Full Screen.
But it does not always behave the same, for reasons unknown. Sometimes, a floating Full Screen box appears. Sometime not. If it does, you can drag it over the regular menu bar if you want that hidden. But then, the menu bar becomes visible.
So, it's a bit of a hit and miss, but it works way better than before.