Bug 102835 - Feature request: Endnote by chapter near end of document.
Summary: Feature request: Endnote by chapter near end of document.
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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: 122828 122933 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Footnote-Endnote
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Reported: 2016-09-29 17:43 UTC by formfeed+bugz
Modified: 2020-03-16 16:53 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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2016-09-29 17:43 UTC, formfeed+bugz
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Description formfeed+bugz 2016-09-29 17:43:40 UTC
Created attachment 127727 [details]
example output

Books in the humanities often have footnotes (or endnotes) near the end of the book, but restart the numbering by chapter. 
I write "near end", because often index, bibliography, author-remarks follow these notes (see attached example). 


One solution would be to allow endnotes numbering to restart. This would not solve the notes-*near*-the-end-problem, or add a way to have chapter headlines between chapter notes. But both of these problems have hacks, not pretty, but would work till a more satisfying change could be implemeted.

A possibly better solution might be to add an option to add footnotes "at footnote-anchor". By default this anchor could be at end of the chapter, but the user could move the anchors towards "near" the end, add chapter headers and or separators in between, and text afterwards.  

I marked this feature request "normal" since it only matters for a subset of writer users. But for these users the feature is critical. I had to switch away from (then) staroffice for a book editing project because of this. 

Related:  
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/70590/grouping-endnotes-by-chapter/
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/1456/is-it-possible-to-number-endnotes-by-chapter/
http://www.libreoffice-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=14784


Depending on the possible solution, these feature requests might be affected:
97675 35474 55436 52048
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2016-10-12 13:04:15 UTC
What is the difference to bug 97675? (If none we could make it a duplicate of this one.)
Comment 2 formfeed+bugz 2016-10-12 14:53:30 UTC
Bug 97675 would be a subset of this (Sorry for that oversight.)
It looks like 97675 would bring LibreOffice to what MSWord can do.

MSWord still needs "hacks" to achieve something that looks like the example layout. Headings between notes and further text after the endnotes are still problematic in Word. One partial MSWord hack is to suppress the notes and have them appear at the end of a section (seemingly after the main text). For more flexibility MS suggests converting the notes to text. 
The more elegant solution is to have a (somewhat*) moveable endnote anchor like in latex.  
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*maybe "somewhat" moveable to avoid circularity & rendering hell


References:

MSWord: 
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_other/insert-a-chapter-after-the-endnotes/34c4a59e-6594-4d01-9044-cf5ac9dbb4c5

https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/44661927-f7a3-4487-b1a4-c672323dfa80/how-do-i-separate-endnotes-by-chapter-at-the-end-of-a-document?forum=worddev

Latex :

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84914/chapter-numbers-in-endnotes

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/62419/how-to-reset-endnotes-counter-at-parts-and-chapters
Comment 3 Dieter 2019-01-20 13:04:49 UTC
*** Bug 122828 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Dieter 2019-01-24 16:21:58 UTC
*** Bug 122933 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 R. Green 2020-01-09 16:05:04 UTC
I'd like to reiterate this request. Most modern books seem to use endnotes divided into chapters, with the chapter number and name inserted at the head of each chapter's footnotes.
Comment 6 R. Green 2020-01-09 16:07:55 UTC
Oops: "footnotes" should read "endnotes".
Comment 7 christ.stark 2020-01-09 21:45:42 UTC Comment hidden (me-too)
Comment 8 peter josvai 2020-03-05 05:23:56 UTC Comment hidden (me-too)
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-16 16:53:38 UTC
The request makes sense and could be implemented without too many changes to the UI if footnotes/endnotes become part of the ToC > Type list. When the user inserts the first endnote we could place the ToC for endnotes on-the-fly at the end of the document, and make it related to the whole document. The user should be able to edit this ToC and move it somewhere else, like at the end of the chapter, and define the scope for just this chapter.

Alternatively, we could have two different endnote commands, one for the whole document at the end (as today), the other for the chapter; maybe that's the better approach as ToC have much more options that wouldn't be needed.

I wonder how the roundtrip with other office suites work. If that's not possible the request is unfortunately a WONTFIX.