Bug 33495 - Allow minimizing or resizing the presenter screen while presentation is active (UI)
Summary: Allow minimizing or resizing the presenter screen while presentation is activ...
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: high enhancement
Assignee: dldld
URL:
Whiteboard: target:7.5.0 inReleaseNotes:7.5
Keywords:
: 42987 62414 91445 92795 95258 133765 136493 136790 137501 141144 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: Slide-Show Presenter-Console
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Reported: 2011-01-25 12:20 UTC by Jed Hamilton
Modified: 2022-12-15 18:47 UTC (History)
20 users (show)

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Presenter Console in windowed mode (287.29 KB, image/png)
2022-11-06 16:55 UTC, dldld
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Impress Settings Window (74.60 KB, image/png)
2022-11-06 16:55 UTC, dldld
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Description Jed Hamilton 2011-01-25 12:20:02 UTC
In a dual screen setup, while a presentation is playing, there is no way on the presenter screen to minimize the presenter screen, in order to do other things in windows.  (Work on another document, play solitaire, check a web page, etc)
I describe the issue here:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Impress-issue-on-Windows-XP-tp2295698p2295698.html
Comment 1 Noel Power 2011-01-26 04:29:23 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 Jed Hamilton 2011-02-16 11:05:23 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 3 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2013-02-14 09:02:04 UTC
In LibreOffice 4.0 this is no longer an extension, but a core feature. Thus, it cannot be disabled anymore.
I think it would be nice to have a way to move the Presenter Screen from full-screen to a window.
Comment 4 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2013-02-14 09:05:00 UTC
*** Bug 42987 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Jed Hamilton 2013-02-14 13:25:07 UTC
In LibreOffice 4.0, I can delete "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 4.0\program\PresenterScreen.uno.dll", and it will behave as I have been needing it to.  This works just the same as deleting the extensions folder in LibreOffice 3.
Comment 6 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2013-04-25 14:57:10 UTC
*** Bug 62414 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 bfoman (inactive) 2013-07-26 11:50:50 UTC
It still can't be minimized but option to disable the bundled Presenter Console is a LibreOffice 4.1 feature - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1#Impress
Comment 8 Thorsten Behrens (allotropia) 2013-09-12 16:14:58 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2014-01-19 14:26:32 UTC
That is a MS-Windows only bug because under Linux (and OS-X ?) you can switch to another desktop (for example ctrl+alt+right arrow on Unity/Ubuntu) and you don't need to minimize the PresenterConsole to be able to work in another opened window.

Best regard. JBF
Comment 10 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2014-04-17 20:23:15 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2015-06-08 14:43:16 UTC Comment hidden (noise)
Comment 12 Jeremy 2015-07-26 16:59:01 UTC
Issue - that Presenter Console screen occupies the whole screen, precluding other windows as it cannot be minimsed or resized down - is still present and a problem with Libre Office 4.4.4, running on Windows 7.

The Presenter Console screen should run as a normal window, able to be minimised or resized (as described in bug 62414, closed as duplicate of this.
Comment 13 Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 2015-07-30 08:41:16 UTC
*** Bug 92795 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2015-10-08 14:31:22 UTC
*** Bug 91445 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Bryan Quigley 2016-05-04 19:03:12 UTC
*** Bug 95258 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16 krishna e bera 2016-10-27 15:38:45 UTC
This bug was still present in LibreOffice 5.1.2 on Windows 10 yesterday.
We had a dual screen and the presentation played fine on the second screen but we could not turn off or minimize the Presenter Console on the 1st screen.
Comment 17 hagg.koos 2017-08-14 10:23:56 UTC
This bug still exists - and is a needed fix!

Impress/Libreoffice 5.4.0.3, Linux Mint 17.3 cinnamon 64 bit

Cannot access Taskbar or other applications from the presenter console, as the presenter console takes up the full screen.
 
If the Presenter Console were handled as a window (as suggested in the bug duplicates) it would be perfect. 

Please fix, this is an old bug!
Comment 18 QA Administrators 2018-09-21 02:47:37 UTC Comment hidden (noise)
Comment 19 boicottms 2018-09-21 09:12:58 UTC
still the same in 
Version: 6.1.0.3 (x64)
Build ID: efb621ed25068d70781dc026f7e9c5187a4decd1
Thread CPU: 8; SO: Windows 6.1; Resa interfaccia: predefinito; 
Versione locale: it-IT (it_IT); Calc: group threaded
Comment 20 QA Administrators 2019-09-22 02:59:12 UTC Comment hidden (noise)
Comment 21 Jeremy 2019-11-26 22:29:14 UTC
Bug is still present in latest LO (6.3.3) on Windows 10 (1909)
Comment 22 Timur 2020-06-11 18:11:27 UTC
*** Bug 133765 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 23 Xisco Faulí 2020-06-18 14:17:05 UTC
this seems like an enhancement
Comment 24 Timur 2020-06-24 07:40:44 UTC
We have many reports and users here and this looks desired and I hope not too tough to make, once volunteer steps in. 
In the meantime, we can just use Alt+Tab to switch window and come back.
Comment 25 Timur 2020-09-06 18:26:37 UTC
*** Bug 136493 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 26 Timur 2020-09-16 13:41:26 UTC
*** Bug 136790 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 27 Timur 2020-10-15 17:53:22 UTC
*** Bug 137501 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 28 John Hartman 2020-10-15 18:11:34 UTC
(In reply to Timur from comment #24)
> We have many reports and users here and this looks desired and I hope not
> too tough to make, once volunteer steps in. 
> In the meantime, we can just use Alt+Tab to switch window and come back.

Alt-tab is a poor work-around in some cases: many of us are relying heavily on Zoom meetings these days. When you screen-share in Zoom, Zoom places a narrow control panel at the top of the screen, which floats on top of shared applications if they are maximized or smaller than screen size. But if the shared application is full screen, it covers the Zoom control panel, so you can't see notifications etc.  Alt-Tab is a reasonable way to access a hidden application to DO something, but it is a clumsy way to poll for incoming chats or other notifications.

I understand that LibreOffice owes nothing to Zoom, but there are probably a lot of us sharing Impress presentations in Zoom meetings. So this is just a vote to raise the priority of the feature.
Comment 29 Timur 2020-10-16 06:25:42 UTC
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #23)
> this seems like an enhancement

Yes, with High priority. Any idea who is close and maybe willing to do this?
Comment 30 mmu 2020-10-18 12:04:32 UTC
Here is a limited Alt-Tab workaround to get the presenter screen with one single monitor, but you can't minimized the presenter screen.

https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/64534/feature-request-add-show-presenter-view-in-impress/

I test these with Win10, LO 7.0. I get the presenter screen additional and can share the presentations screen in a video conference system. Fine.

Unfortunatley I run now in another problem. At slides with an embedded video, the video run only at the presenter screen. At the presentation screen you see only one frame of the embedded video.
Comment 31 NG_777 2021-01-14 21:26:28 UTC
Just wanted to say this is happening on the OSX side as well. Currently using version 7.0.4.2.
Comment 32 Timur 2021-03-21 14:14:47 UTC
*** Bug 141144 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 33 dldld 2022-11-06 16:55:15 UTC
Created attachment 183438 [details]
Presenter Console in windowed mode
Comment 34 dldld 2022-11-06 16:55:38 UTC
Created attachment 183439 [details]
Impress Settings Window
Comment 35 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2022-11-07 10:22:43 UTC
changing affected OSs to "All" as I assume not 100% of Linux distros offer a way to switch desktops (which is in any case a workaround, not a fix). Comment 17 shows that people on Linux also want it, and same for MacOS in Comment 31.
Comment 36 Commit Notification 2022-11-17 05:58:45 UTC
Daniel Lohmann committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/a15bcda0e21be04bec424172192f2416b7f52422

tdf#33495: Allow presenter console in windowed mode

It will be available in 7.5.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 37 Mike Kaganski 2022-11-17 06:22:49 UTC
Great to have it fixed!
Just a note for a follow-up:
Currently, the presenter console is not shown at all, even if set to start always, when the slide show is shown in windowed mode; it looks like it would make sense to have windowed presenter console alongside with windowed slide show :)
Comment 38 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2022-12-05 23:05:12 UTC
Verified fixed in:

Version: 7.5.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 6d6a2343b1d45695f3ea02818d317a022a7b259f
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Thanks Daniel!